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[Number_25]

The capitalist superstructure's most sinister ploy to date has been indoctrinating Marxists into believing that their sentences don't need proper subjects, or the active voice.

You need perspective, that's the only way we can learn from our mistakes.

 

[catcherintherye]

There's little doubt about the class element, twas ever thus, however Gramsci wouldn't have understood the methodology being used today, the technology has allowed distraction for confusion and allowed enough layers of detachment to allow a guilt culture to foment within itself so that sub divisions of blame can be attached. It then gives knobends like Yaxley a platform. That solidarity is tainted by self preservation and the replication of capital ideals amongst the labour movement and working classes. As long as they percieve a layer or two below their lot will generally stop them short of revolt.

The old political allegiances are being redrawn. Age is a big differentiator now. There are layers of working class communities, outside of big cities (which benefitted from EU & Labour money in the city centres, as well as the universification of society) that have many older and quite left behind members of society. At one end there are not a lot of opportunities for people, and at the other, the opportunities there are are now in areas which are more individualised, atomised or underhand.

I spoke to a bricky a couple of years back and he said in the 70's he was on a sites and there were hundreds of people with a shared sense of purpose, ethos, values and goals who relied upon one another. It was this sense of collectivism that underpinned the more left leaning ideas, not the fact he worked with his hands, or outside that made him working class. This is an idea the majority of the political spectrum can't grasp. Now he works on his own much more, he's almost self employed, he earns more (good luck to him) but depends solely on himself.

When people talk of Ukip winning "working class votes" often what they are talking about is how jobs that were typecast as working class are now quite middle class jobs is outlook, prospects and pay.

This shift isn't helped by huge sections of the left that don't really understand what's gone on. The worst aspects have embibed the language of neoliberalism around identity politics and just want to talk about themselves (and experiences that are another world to people who sympathise with Robinson). Others tactically just want to build strength where there are more receptive ideas, i.e. younger people in university cities.

There's an issue of gender here too. The left has been terrible on this and continues to be.

Either way there's a space for people like Robinson. He hasn't had to do a lot, but he looks the part. Much of the intellectual ground work has been done for him initially by the BNP and then latterly by Farage but he brings some glamour and swagger to the part. Sexual violence hasn't been taken seriously by the ruling elite in this country and the left have failed to take the issue seriously, so then the right get an opportunity to put a spin on it. You can see where he gets success from.

His supporters will be quite emboldened again, but they are not all fascists. Many are just frustrated the world has got worse for them over a generation and he gives them a narrative they can relate too. I sense until the left become confident enough to emerge out of their (our) bubble and start engaging with people he will continue to have a foothold.

 

[Foot Long Hot Dog]

The old political allegiances are being redrawn. Age is a big differentiator now. There are layers of working class communities, outside of big cities (which benefitted from EU & Labour money in the city centres, as well as the universification of society) that have many older and quite left behind members of society. At one end there are not a lot of opportunities for people, and at the other, the opportunities there are are now in areas which are more individualised, atomised or underhand.

I spoke to a bricky a couple of years back and he said in the 70's he was on a sites and there were hundreds of people with a shared sense of purpose, ethos, values and goals who relied upon one another. It was this sense of collectivism that underpinned the more left leaning ideas, not the fact he worked with his hands, or outside that made him working class. This is an idea the majority of the political spectrum can't grasp. Now he works on his own much more, he's almost self employed, he earns more (good luck to him) but depends solely on himself.

When people talk of Ukip winning "working class votes" often what they are talking about is how jobs that were typecast as working class are now quite middle class jobs is outlook, prospects and pay.

This shift isn't helped by huge sections of the left that don't really understand what's gone on. The worst aspects have embibed the language of neoliberalism around identity politics and just want to talk about themselves (and experiences that are another world to people who sympathise with Robinson). Others tactically just want to build strength where there are more receptive ideas, i.e. younger people in university cities.

There's an issue of gender here too. The left has been terrible on this and continues to be.

Either way there's a space for people like Robinson. He hasn't had to do a lot, but he looks the part. Much of the intellectual ground work has been done for him initially by the BNP and then latterly by Farage but he brings some glamour and swagger to the part. Sexual violence hasn't been taken seriously by the ruling elite in this country and the left have failed to take the issue seriously, so then the right get an opportunity to put a spin on it. You can see where he gets success from.

His supporters will be quite emboldened again, but they are not all fascists. Many are just frustrated the world has got worse for them over a generation and he gives them a narrative they can relate too. I sense until the left become confident enough to emerge out of their (our) bubble and start engaging with people he will continue to have a foothold.

Laxley Lennon doesn’t give a flying one about child abuse. If he was genuinely concerned about child’s abuse he’d have been outside other trials that didn’t involve the accused having a brown face. He’s jumped on the Asian sexual abuse issue, as it suits his agenda. His sorry followers are cut from the same cloth.

These people are no better nor different to the NF in the ‘70’s, they’ve just somehow partially legitimised themselves by hiding behind the idea that their interest is driven by the victims of abuse. These aren’t people who have been left behind by anything other than human decency. They’re racist xenophobes, who wrap themselves in the George cross and claim to be patriots, when they’re nothing more than small minded bigots. They’ve always been there, but since June 23rd 2016, the lid on the sewer was lifted, they felt empowered by that result and are now in the open.

 

[Harryflashman]

Laxley Lennon doesn’t give a flying one about child abuse. If he was genuinely concerned about child’s abuse he’d have been outside other trials that didn’t involve the accused having a brown face. He’s jumped on the Asian sexual abuse issue, as it suits his agenda. His sorry followers are cut from the same cloth.

These people are no better nor different to the NF in the ‘70’s, they’ve just somehow partially legitimised themselves by hiding behind the idea that their interest is driven by the victims of abuse. These aren’t people who have been left behind by anything other than human decency. They’re racist xenophobes, who wrap themselves in the George cross and claim to be patriots, when they’re nothing more than small minded bigots. They’ve always been there, but since June 23rd 2016, the lid on the sewer was lifted, they felt empowered by that result and are now in the open.

The heir to the throne has been embroiled in the long standing cover up of the sexual abuse of children involving a bishop and what appears to be a large number of paedophiles in the Chichester Diocese . The Catholic Church has been haunted by systematic child abuse and institutionalised cover ups for years and none of these cases seem to whet the appetite of those so opposed to child abuse and the lack of coverage .

That’s not me in any way excusing or ignoring the abuse of children , whatever the religion or ethnicity of the offenders . Whoever the offender is or Whatever characterises them I’m equally sickened and appalled and have a desire to both see the truth revealed and the offender punished to the full extent of the law. I suppose that’s where I’m a bit different to the Robinsons and his EDL mates.

 

[ToffeeDan]

"Robinson, 35, whose real name is Stephen Christopher Yaxley-Lennon"

Bloody Hell, no wonder he changed it!

Sounds like he's a bloody Viscount with that name

Double barreled surnames were a sign of illegitimacy. He's clearly revived the Bas. tradition with his disgusting old school attitudes.

 

[Foot Long Hot Dog]

The heir to the throne has been embroiled in the long standing cover up of the sexual abuse of children involving a bishop and what appears to be a large number of paedophiles in the Chichester Diocese . The Catholic Church has been haunted by systematic child abuse and institutionalised cover ups for years and none of these cases seem to whet the appetite of those so opposed to child abuse and the lack of coverage .

That’s not me in any way excusing or ignoring the abuse of children , whatever the religion or ethnicity of the offenders . Whoever the offender is or Whatever characterises them I’m equally sickened and appalled and have a desire to both see the truth revealed and the offender punished to the full extent of the law. I suppose that’s where I’m a bit different to the Robinsons and his EDL mates.

What they have in common is that they prey on the vulnerable, substance abusers, teenagers in social care etc.

Lennon has tried to make this issue the ‘proof’ that Islam is incompatible with western life.

At least 2 of his former EDL mates have been jailed for being nonces the most recent earlier this year who got 9 years for repeatedly raping a 10 year old. He wasn’t outside that courthouse.

 

[Harryflashman]

What they have in common is that they prey on the vulnerable, substance abusers, teenagers in social care etc.

Lennon has tried to make this issue the ‘proof’ that Islam is incompatible with western life.

At least 2 of his former EDL mates have been jailed for being nonces the most recent earlier this year who got 9 years for repeatedly raping a 10 year old. He wasn’t outside that courthouse.

That’s my point , if they were a vigilante group vehemently opposed to sexual abuse then I’d have issues with their behaviour but it’d be easier to empathise with their position. To politicise it and more importantly to use it as a rallying cry to those he knows it will either appeal to or are easily manipulated is pretty despicable really .

 

[Foot Long Hot Dog]

That’s my point , if they were a vigilante group vehemently opposed to sexual abuse then I’d have issues with their behaviour but it’d be easier to empathise with their position. To politicise it and more importantly to use it as a rallying cry to those he knows it will either appeal to or are easily manipulated is pretty despicable really .

Yep, I personally doubt any of those who actually follow him have been drawn to the cause by this twisted angle, it’s merely adding confirmation bias to their already racist opinions. You only have to look on twitter to see the ‘level’ this guy attracts.

 

[Connor]

"Please Sandra, just let me see the kids"

 

[Bruce Wayne]

"Please Sandra, just let me see the kids"

Is he for real or some kind of Borat style parody of that EDL culture?

 

[JimmyJeffers]

Laxley Lennon doesn’t give a flying one about child abuse. If he was genuinely concerned about child’s abuse he’d have been outside other trials that didn’t involve the accused having a brown face. He’s jumped on the Asian sexual abuse issue, as it suits his agenda. His sorry followers are cut from the same cloth.

These people are no better nor different to the NF in the ‘70’s, they’ve just somehow partially legitimised themselves by hiding behind the idea that their interest is driven by the victims of abuse. These aren’t people who have been left behind by anything other than human decency. They’re racist xenophobes, who wrap themselves in the George cross and claim to be patriots, when they’re nothing more than small minded bigots. They’ve always been there, but since June 23rd 2016, the lid on the sewer was lifted, they felt empowered by that result and are now in the open.

Great post

 

[Connor]

Is he for real or some kind of Borat style parody of that EDL culture?

He appears to very much be genuine

 

[Moomin]

Can we change bailed to bellend please.

 

[magicjuan]

The old political allegiances are being redrawn. Age is a big differentiator now. There are layers of working class communities, outside of big cities (which benefitted from EU & Labour money in the city centres, as well as the universification of society) that have many older and quite left behind members of society. At one end there are not a lot of opportunities for people, and at the other, the opportunities there are are now in areas which are more individualised, atomised or underhand.

I spoke to a bricky a couple of years back and he said in the 70's he was on a sites and there were hundreds of people with a shared sense of purpose, ethos, values and goals who relied upon one another. It was this sense of collectivism that underpinned the more left leaning ideas, not the fact he worked with his hands, or outside that made him working class. This is an idea the majority of the political spectrum can't grasp. Now he works on his own much more, he's almost self employed, he earns more (good luck to him) but depends solely on himself.

When people talk of Ukip winning "working class votes" often what they are talking about is how jobs that were typecast as working class are now quite middle class jobs is outlook, prospects and pay.

This shift isn't helped by huge sections of the left that don't really understand what's gone on. The worst aspects have embibed the language of neoliberalism around identity politics and just want to talk about themselves (and experiences that are another world to people who sympathise with Robinson). Others tactically just want to build strength where there are more receptive ideas, i.e. younger people in university cities.

There's an issue of gender here too. The left has been terrible on this and continues to be.

Either way there's a space for people like Robinson. He hasn't had to do a lot, but he looks the part. Much of the intellectual ground work has been done for him initially by the BNP and then latterly by Farage but he brings some glamour and swagger to the part. Sexual violence hasn't been taken seriously by the ruling elite in this country and the left have failed to take the issue seriously, so then the right get an opportunity to put a spin on it. You can see where he gets success from.

His supporters will be quite emboldened again, but they are not all fascists. Many are just frustrated the world has got worse for them over a generation and he gives them a narrative they can relate too. I sense until the left become confident enough to emerge out of their (our) bubble and start engaging with people he will continue to have a foothold.

That takes me to Toffler and how technology creates a vacuum. Add Thatcherism, the ideal of entrepeneurs as a tool for eradicating unity, unionism, solidarity, you're not going on strike if you're self employed, and the splintering of communities that empowered each other such as miners, dockers, steel workers and you're left not with a working class but something more akin to 'untermenschen' as defined by fascists.
There has been an almost perpetual class war waged due to the need for mass labour, that need has gone, replaced by consumers, materialistic gluttony. It doesn't matter what is bought, the volume oils the wheels. But that is endless, constantly cyclical with little chance of escape. Pop up Mr Finger Pointer Yaxley. You're stuck in a rut and it's their fault. He's there because he's supposed to be, it's part of a game, just another chess move.

 

[abelard]

He's there because he's supposed to be, it's part of a game, just another chess move.

Have you ever met any rich people? They're really not that clever, or sophisticated...