Today's football.

[BluenosePaul]

Well, yes and no. We all know he's got negative football down to an art, but this is mostly just terrible tactics from Guardiola rather than anything Moyes is doing.

If United sneak a 1-0 here, Moyes over 2 legs will have outclassed + beaten Guardiola.

 

[Allezfan]

If United sneak a 1-0 here, Moyes over 2 legs will have outclassed + beaten Guardiola.

He's not going to, though.

 

[TheFinnFan]

Moyes would take 0-0 X

 

[dannyboy]

he would be like this regardless of the situation, wouldn't he.

He'll probably never create a side that forces other teams to set up like United have tonight. The best he can hope for is replicating a Mourinho/Athletico set up. Moyes just doesn't place enough value on possession to ever go into these games a different way.

 

[BluenosePaul]

Martinez at Wigan. Girard at Montpellier.

Relegation an achievement these days then?

Seriously though they had an easy cup run and beat a poor city side in final. What Simeone is doing is 100x better.

 

[toffee matt]

If Atleti do win the league, then what Simeone has done is probably the best managerial achievement in Europe for the past ten years. If they do the double, its hard to think of a managerial achievement better than it.

Klopp at Dortmund has been just as good

 

[BluenosePaul]

He's not going to, though.

sorry mystic meg

 

[Walken]

Disappointed by Ribery, Robben and Gotze. Real lack of threat until now, obviously they're up against it with a lack of room but for world class players they should be offering more.

Gotze looks half the player in peps system, you can understand why he made the move, but he would be a better player at Dortmund

 

[Allezfan]

Relegation an achievement these days then?

Seriously though they had an easy cup run and beat a poor city side in final. What Simeone is doing is 100x better.

Teams like Wigan don't win Fa cups.

Simeone has two world class striker up front. Martinez had Scharner and ben watson.

 

[tsubaki]

Martinez at Wigan. Girard at Montpellier.

This is better than either of theirs - lets not forget they sold their best player, and saw the two main Spanish clubs pay a hundred million euro for one player each.

 

[Walken]

Pep ruining yet another team.

him and fatso keeping guilleme balgura in a job is reason enough to hate the beauts

 

[ijjysmith]

Christ I forgot Götze was even playing.

 

[Tubey]

If United sneak a 1-0 here, Moyes over 2 legs will have outclassed + beaten Guardiola.

I honestly don't think that's the case. Moyes hasn't done anything tactical here, it's just that Bayern haven't either. Two generally poor managers with no plan B nullifying each other stylistically.

 

[bluemangroup]

It's just a crap game in all honesty.

Bayern were crap against Arsenal as well though in both legs. They weren't brilliant against City. The style of lay affects the quality of games they are involved in.

 

[BluenosePaul]

Teams like Wigan don't win Fa cups.

Simeone has two world class striker up front. Martinez had Scharner and ben watson.

Portsmouth won it, Stoke and Cardiff got to finals recently.