TheBigIguana
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No mate. I know international trophies are a bit foreign to you.
Today's Football - 2023/2024 Season
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Not at all, just wondering what "International trophy" America have won?
I guess you had to face the Worlds Elite in it right?
Saint Domingo
Player Valuation: £90m
Forgotten how bad MOTD has become. ‘Virgil’, shut up Murphy you clown.
Maccies Invitational I think
BigDunc'sFod
Player Valuation: £35m
I think they are all banker’s except for spurs away
Jamo Martinez
Player Valuation: £70m
Yes it is true.
Jamo Martinez
Player Valuation: £70m
They haven't. top 3 have all played 31.
Question: how many years have to pass without United winning a title, before they're stopped being compared in the media to what they once were under Fergie? 20 years?
McBain
Player Valuation: £80m
Because they’ve got the budget, the backing and the media behind them, never. You’re looking at a closed shop in our lifetime.
magicjuan
Player Valuation: £60m
Titles schmitles. It's about viewers and subscribers and customers and consumers now. Football is about advertising and gambling and clicks. And yet here we all are, still obsessing because we are the peak of brand loyalty.
We could have all that if we had Taylor Swift as a number 9
Titles schmitles. It's about viewers and subscribers and customers and consumers now. Football is about advertising and gambling and clicks. And yet here we all are, still obsessing because we are the peak of brand loyalty.
We could have all that if we had Taylor Swift as a number 9
I just find it interesting when watching Sky Sports, the Overlap shows etc. and when United are discussed the likes of Neville and Keane always compare current United to their United. Standards have slipped, wouldn't have happened back then, United "should be winning titles" etc.
Many, many great teams from the 80's won titles and no one talks about them with the same expectations anymore. I just wonder if they went say 20-25 years no title do people like that still say "we should be winning titles, we did it in the noughties".
magicjuan
Player Valuation: £60m
I think that's the way supporters behave and believe, and I'm sure there's an element of that amongst our support too, great sides in living memory.
With Utd they got lucky at the dawn of Sky soccer, having half a team come through at once via academy, meant their outlay could be minimised, minimal or targetted.
Most teams were 'built, as opposed to 'bought'.
There's only mention of teams like ours, Forest's, Villa's etc amongst football supporters, and there's the distinction. And it's what I believe sets things apart. As an Evertonian I was raised a football fan first, which meant I could recognise and appreciate good football (and sportsmanship) regardless, my favourite team were Everton, above all. Lucky enough to see Best, Cruyff, Pele etc and appreciate them. I remember clapping Ian Wright off after he ran our defence ragged.
But now there is blind, tribal cult like worship at the top which is fed and fuelled by the vested interests I mentioned earlier.
Utd are only still relevant because of that media fuelled rivalry and the odd cup win. And that must really, really hurt their actual dwindling supporters.
Well it was 30 years with the rs, so I imagine it will be similar
I don't know if that was the same for me though. Yes there was always that millstone around their neck but they weren't really, from memory, talked about in the media as if they should be winning titles.
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