Times article, Burnley/Leeds threaten to sue Everton

[MikeH72]

I am with you, hoping there will not. But some thing will happen those two clubs will not drop it.

If a points deduction is considered it’s for next season and will have absolutely no bearing or impact on the season that’s just finished.

 

[TrachyBlue]

Kopites?

Yes, from the particular kopite that wrote the post.

 

[tmgc]

I'm no legal expert, as I think we've established earlier in the thread, but I don't think she can be married to all 3 at once.

You could have performed surgery on the first two, and they're now sadly no longer with us.

 

[Spadge Vernacular]

Let us look at the fax.

 

[Cow kecks]

There's no son in law is there?

I've got three of them, two are rs so I take everything they say seriously, fountains of knowledge on everything football related, as they all are.

 

[Toffeelover]

I'm no legal expert, as I think we've established earlier in the thread, but I don't think she can be married to all 3 at once.

Lost me bungle did I not say son in law.

 

[Spadge Vernacular]

City posted combined losses in the premier league of £149m for the first two seasons assessed - £97m in 2012 and £51.6m in 2013.

Have they been vaporised?

 

[Toffeelover]

Losses of the magnitude that appear to breach FFP don't automatically mean a club is in breach, because UEFA's FFP parameters don't consider certain types of "virtuous" spending -- like investment in youth or infrastructure -- as losses. And, when arguing their case, clubs can also include future revenue projections to show they are trending in the right direction. At least this is what Liverpool and Man City have relied upon previously and lets be honest, they won't want their cash cows dragged back into a threatening situation as I am sure there'd be an all out war.

So you are saying Burnley and Leeds have no case.

 

[Lobster Johnson]

So you are saying Burnley and Leeds have no case.

How can the Premier League sign off our accounts and then turn around, months after the event, and say they got it wrong? How can anybody in the league plan anything in that climate?

 

[Rich1878]

I have just had a tree surgeon around to give me a price and whilst speaking FFP came up. He is clearly an expert at what he does and say that the actions taken against teams who have broken FFP to date are as below - and I trust him because he knows how to properly crop a tree.

• Vojvodina – fined €10,000 (December 21, 2012)
• Arsenal Kyiv – fined €45,000 (December 21, 2012)
• Osijek – fined €100,000 (December 21, 2012)
• Dinamo București – fined €100,000 (December 21, 2012)
• Rapid București – fined €100,000 (December 21, 2012). Missed deadline to pay outstanding payments and was handed a one-season ban from European competition (March 31, 2013).
• Hajduk Split – fined €40,000 (December 21, 2012). Withheld prize money for not paying outstanding payments (September 20, 2013)
• Malaga – fined €300,000 and handed a one-season ban from European competition (March 31, 2013)
• Astra Ploiești – withheld prize money for not paying outstanding payments (September 20, 2013)
• Metalurh Donetsk – withheld prize money for not paying outstanding payments (September 20, 2013). Handed a one-season ban from European competition and fined €80,000 (December 20, 2013).
• Skonto – withheld prize money for not paying outstanding payments (September 20, 2013). Handed a one-season ban from European competition and fined €40,000 (December 20, 2013).
• Trabzonspor – withheld prize money for not paying outstanding payments (September 20, 2013)
• Zrinjski Mostar – withheld prize money for not paying outstanding payments (September 20, 2013)
• Petrolul Ploiești – handed a one-season ban from European competition and fined €50,000 (December 20, 2013).
• Pandurii Târgu Jiu – fined €40,000 (December 20, 2013)
• Śląsk Wrocław – fined €20,000 (December 20, 2013)
• Anzhi Makhachkala – fined €2 million, of which €1 million was suspended. Squad for UEFA competitions reduced to 21 players, and one-year squad salary restrictions imposed (May 16, 2014)
• Bursaspor – fined €200,000 fine, and one-year squad salary restrictions imposed (May 16, 2014)
• Galatasaray – fined €200,000, and one-year squad salary restrictions imposed (May 16, 2014)
• Levski Sofia – fined €200,000, and one-year squad salary restrictions imposed (May 16, 2014)
• Rubin Kazan – fined €6 million, of which €3 million was suspended. Squad for UEFA competitions reduced to 21 players, and transfer spending restrictions and two-year squad salary restrictions imposed (May 16, 2014)
• Trabzonspor – fined €200,000, and one-year squad salary restrictions imposed (May 16, 2014)
• Zenit Saint Petersburg – fined €12 million fine, of which €6 million was suspended. Squad for UEFA competitions reduced to 22 players, and transfer spending restrictions and two-year squad salary restrictions were imposed (May 16, 2014)
• Paris Saint-Germain – find €60 million, of which €40 million was suspended. Squad for UEFA competitions reduced to 21 players, and transfer spending restrictions and two-year squad salary restrictions imposed (May 16, 2014)
• Manchester City – fined €60 million, of which €40 million was suspended. Squad for UEFA competitions reduced to 21 players, and transfer spending restrictions and two-year squad salary restrictions imposed (May 16, 2014)
• Astana – fined €2 million, of which €1.5 million was suspended. Squad for UEFA competitions reduced to 22 players, and transfer spending restrictions imposed. Required to break even by 2018 (May 20, 2016)
• Dinamo Zagreb – fined €200,000. Squad for UEFA competitions reduced to 23 players, and required to break even by 2016 (May 20, 2016)
• Fenerbahçe – fined €7.5 million, of which €5.5 million was suspended. Squad for UEFA competitions reduced to 22 players. Transfer spending restrictions imposed, required to reach a defined employee benefit expenses to revenue ratio, and required to break even by 2019 (May 20, 2016)
• Trabzonspor – fined €2 million, of which €1 million was suspended. Squad for UEFA competitions reduced to 22 players. Transfer spending restrictions imposed, required to reach a defined employee benefit expenses to revenue ratio, and required to break even by 2018 (May 20, 2016)
• AC Milan – banned from European competitions for a year (June 28, 2019)

How TF did you remember all that?

 

[Lobster Johnson]

How TF did you remember all that?

He didn't, the tree surgeon did.

 

[Toffeelover]

How can the Premier League sign off our accounts and then turn around, months after the event, and say they got it wrong? How can anybody in the league plan anything in that climate?

Look I am with a lot of you because I fear for our club. But the question why are these two small beers chasing us, have they got a case.

 

[Spadge Vernacular]

So you are saying Burnley and Leeds have no case.

The short answer would be yes. The Premier League does have its own Financial Fair Play rules, however, it must be noted that these rules are far less strict than those implemented by UEFA’s Financial Fair Play.

Whether the lenient nature of the EPL’s financial rules is intentional or not could be a matter of debate. Perhaps the English FA isn’t too adamant on limiting the economical margins of EPL clubs, instead, the governing authority would be far more content watching the clubs attract the biggest stars to English shores.

Therefore, we’re yet to see a Premier League side truly struggling to meet the financial requirements set by the league. Ergo City.

That was info from my mate who is a cards in gas fitter.

 

[Spadge Vernacular]

How TF did you remember all that?

Tree surgery

 

[Marius57]

Lost me bungle did I not say son in law.

I think bungle is suggesting you have a daughter who is married to your son in law. But it could be a son married to your son in law.