Tim Howard

Toffeelover · November 5, 2015

Dithering Dougie said:
Okay then what about the RS deal with Nivea? You're not telling me that same season Tim Howard grows a David Bellamy tribute beard and those lot get a huge sponsorship deal wasn't connected. Not a chance.

Doug in the words of RM, you are incredible and contribute massively to GOT with your phenomenal posts.Keep up the good work.

Dithering Dougie · November 5, 2015

Toffeelover said:
Doug in the words of RM, you are incredible and contribute massively to GOT with your phenomenal posts.Keep up the good work.

Just showing you the pieces of the jigsaw mate. I'll let you all put them all together yourselfs..

Toffeelover · November 5, 2015

Dithering Dougie said:
Just showing you the pieces of the jigsaw mate. I'll let you all put them all together yourselfs..

Pass on that friend, not much good at card board puzzles.

Zatara · November 5, 2015

Amazing tattooist apparently....

Weird though...

Hand eye coordition isnt the best

AaronTheBlue said:
he is awful at everything except being to save shots, very rarely.

theres nothing you can look at howard and say 'he's amazing at that' or even 'good at that'

he's just.. eh.

Prevenger17 · November 5, 2015

Dithering Dougie said:
Just showing you the pieces of the jigsaw mate. I'll let you all put them all together yourselfs..

You can only show them the flowing river of truth. It is they who must drink from it.

Toffeelover · November 5, 2015

Prevenger17 said:
You can only show them the flowing river of truth. It is they who must drink from it.

carolinablue232 · November 5, 2015

joey_macmo said:
Using the same stat that people used to prove Howard was statistically the worst keeper in the league last season he is currently 7th in the standings

http://scores.nbcsports.msnbc.com/epl/player_leaders.asp?category=107

Stats only mean so much, but yes, there are many that use them when convenient and say they're meaningless when they're contrary to their belief.

Just to throw some fuel on the fire, the top keeper in the prem at the moment (Cech), in the same game this week was beaten at his near post, beaten to a cross, beaten while standing on his 6 while a shot came in from the top of his box, and beaten from distance.

mlyons · November 5, 2015

Bluetintedspecs said:
Those stats are pretty meaningless because what they don't show is how many goals conceded that the keeper should have saved. We've conceded 15 goals in the league this season and these are the ones where Howard has been at fault:

5 goals from headers inside the 6 yard box because Howard failed to come and claim crosses. A keeper should be using the considerable advantage he has in being able to use his hands to come and claim crosses wherever possible. We concede so many goals from headers inside the 6 yard box because Howard prefers to leave crosses for his defence to deal with, but no defender will win every header.

3 goals (2 v Man U, 1 on near post v Man City) where Howard dived the wrong way, before the shot was taken, because he was trying to anticipate where the shot was going in order to make up for the fact that his reflexes are now much slower. The two against Man U he may not have saved anyway, but he made it much easier for the scorers.

2 goals against Watford that, in my opinion, he should have saved. He seemed to dive under the the ball.

Granted, other players also made errors that contributed to those goals, but no one has made as many as Howard. That's 10 out of 15 goals conceded where he should have done better. Where would we be in the league with a better keeper? At the moment, top four.

Yes, if we had a goalkeeper that only conceded 5 goals in 11 matches with the defense we've had, we'd definitely be top four. Of course, the goalkeeper capable of doing that does not exist.

Just for comparison, look at Manuel Neuer, probably the best keeper in the world playing for probably the best team in the world. He's conceded 9 goals in 17 matches with a far better team in front of him. You seem to think Howard should be doing better than that.

No keeper in the world will be mistake free. Howard makes his share of mistakes and manages to look silly a lot of the time, but he's not making more mistakes than the average Premier League goalkeeper.

Pacman · November 5, 2015

Won't happen but he massively needs replacing next summer. Would love us to throw big money for Butland.

Jordan Pickford is certainly one to look at on the Cheap, England under 21 GK who's on loan at Preston from Sunderland, just had 5 clean sheets in a row. Would love to see the club try pick him up.

ijjysmith · November 5, 2015

Pacman said:
Won't happen but he massively needs replacing next summer. Would love us to throw big money for Butland.

Jordan Pickford is certainly one to look at on the Cheap, England under 21 GK who's on loan at Preston from Sunderland, just had 5 clean sheets in a row. Would love to see the club try pick him up.

Interesting shout. Seen a little of him. Looks decent. Always a risk with a young keeper but eventually we will have to take one.

ArtetaMoney · November 5, 2015

ijjysmith said:
Interesting shout. Seen a little of him. Looks decent. Always a risk with a young keeper but eventually we will have to take one.

We've got one

jinkyali · November 5, 2015

Pacman said:
Won't happen but he massively needs replacing next summer. Would love us to throw big money for Butland.

Jordan Pickford is certainly one to look at on the Cheap, England under 21 GK who's on loan at Preston from Sunderland, just had 5 clean sheets in a row. Would love to see the club try pick him up.

Fully agree. I watch a lot of PNE.
His distribution is immense.