ijjysmith
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Who do you think is a better footballer mate? John Stones or Tim Howard?
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Who do you think is a better footballer mate? John Stones or Tim Howard?
blue4eva77
Yarmolenko ? Yes please
Stop being silly Mr Smith.
Why do you think as a team, we allow the opposition to have the most shots on target against us. ? We are almost at the top of the table in this category i think. You don't think that is a concern and is down to our style of defending. When combined with some truly awful school boy errors, its a recipe for disaster.
A bit hard to back off defending a corner, our defence at the moment is keeping the score line down , and it's a makeshift defence with a makeshift Keeper!
blue4eva77
Yarmolenko ? Yes please
Stats for shots allowed can only register off corners now? Joseph, stop being a plank and have a discussion about it. I was talking about defending in general. The way we back off teams, allow them into the final third and seem to make a lot of unforced school boy errors. The last time i checked Howard has the 4th most saves in the premier league this season. I think that tells the bigger picture and could suggest otherwise.
Our keeper is poo.
Have you ever seen a good Everton FC great goal keeper apart from Tim Coward?
anton66
Player Valuation: £50m
Saves with legs,star jumps and diving backwards is Tim's remit.
mightymoyes
Player Valuation: £70m
having that donkey in goal cant help the defenders confidence
blue4eva77
Yarmolenko ? Yes please
The only truly great Everton goalkeepers are West and Southall.
Interesting you used the term ' apart from ', are you really saying that Tim Howard is a great keeper. I'm all for agreeing he has been a decent Everton keeper but a great one ? Hmmmmm how very weird.
blue4eva77
Yarmolenko ? Yes please
People will say Martyn which is a myth. One good season for us.
Bluetintedspecs
Player Valuation: £6m
Maybe this difference of opinions re. Howard is a cultural thing. When I was a kid, we always expected British keepers to command their penalty area and come and claim the ball wherever possible, if they were confident they could get there. I seem to recall there was a perception among the telly pundits of the time (probably wrong) that European keepers didn't like to come for crosses, and when they did they'd always punch, rather than catch. Maybe it's a very British thing and might explain why some of our American fans (and Martinez) fail to see what many of us think is glaringly obvious.
I think it's great that we have so many American posters on this forum. I rarely post myself, but I read a fair bit, and the American contingent certainly add a lot to my enjoyment of the forum, as well as plenty of humour, and it's also good that there are a few regular female posters within that contingent. If some of those Americans became Everton supporters due to Howard playing for us, that's great, too.
A lot has been said in this thread about the fact that when we concede a poor goal it's usually down to errors from more than one player, and it's true that last season (less so this) the defence collectively made a lot of unforced errors. I think I read somewhere that we conceded more goals due to unforced errors than any other PL team last season and Howard certainly wasn't responsible for all of them.
The likes of Barkley and Stones, for example, make mistakes, but we know that what they add to the team more than makes up for it. They're also young, will only get better and we're lucky to have them, so the pros far outweigh the cons. With Howard, for me, the cons have outweighed the pros for quite some time and he's only going to get worse, not better. It's not just me who has that view either. The last time I checked the "Position most in need of a new signing thread", 62% of voters thought we should sign a new keeper, more than twice as many as a new playmaker, despite the fact that we were all desperate for Martinez to sign a playmaker in the summer.
I think it's great that we have so many American posters on this forum. I rarely post myself, but I read a fair bit, and the American contingent certainly add a lot to my enjoyment of the forum, as well as plenty of humour, and it's also good that there are a few regular female posters within that contingent. If some of those Americans became Everton supporters due to Howard playing for us, that's great, too.
A lot has been said in this thread about the fact that when we concede a poor goal it's usually down to errors from more than one player, and it's true that last season (less so this) the defence collectively made a lot of unforced errors. I think I read somewhere that we conceded more goals due to unforced errors than any other PL team last season and Howard certainly wasn't responsible for all of them.
The likes of Barkley and Stones, for example, make mistakes, but we know that what they add to the team more than makes up for it. They're also young, will only get better and we're lucky to have them, so the pros far outweigh the cons. With Howard, for me, the cons have outweighed the pros for quite some time and he's only going to get worse, not better. It's not just me who has that view either. The last time I checked the "Position most in need of a new signing thread", 62% of voters thought we should sign a new keeper, more than twice as many as a new playmaker, despite the fact that we were all desperate for Martinez to sign a playmaker in the summer.
Eric Djemba-Djemba
Player Valuation: £60m
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