Tim Howard

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maccavennie said:
Howard doesn't deserve half the crap he gets because he simply isn't good enough but keeps getting picked. He's finished as a top class keeper, has been for ages but if you have a manager who is that incompetent at making decisions based on football performance and not just some best mates act then there's nothing you can do as a fan

Boo Howard by all means, christ I would bit I would also be shouting for our manager to do one because he simply can't make big managerial calls.

Like our keeper, Martinez is not good enough for our football club.
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I agree with most of this, but booing your own players doesn't really help anything does it? We've given up 19 goals at Goodison this season and only 9 away. Maybe its time to get behind our players instead of making them mental by getting on their backs before the ball is kicked. Our defense looks more comfortable away from home, and that very much includes Howard.
 
carolinablue232 said:
I agree with most of this, but booing your own players doesn't really help anything does it? We've given up 19 goals at Goodison this season and only 9 away. Maybe its time to get behind our players instead of making them mental by getting on their backs before the ball is kicked. Our defense looks more comfortable away from home, and that very much includes Howard.
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Do you want to go and knock on the door of the 40,000 fans who turned up today and tell them maybe it's time to get behind the players instead of making them mental before a ball has been kicked?. Plus you might want to add the 40,000 who turned up against Leicester, oh and the 37,000 who turned up against Palace.

You know what,maybe we should tell them all not to turn up at all and with our free flowing football we would smash everyone into oblivion.

We've given up 19 goals at home because our tit of a manager can't organise a team properly. Don't believe me? Check out home record from last season as well.
 
ToffeeTim said:
It wasn't good. He could have left it, he could have did an impressive catch, he could have punched it behind or out wider. No, he flapped it for an open goal. It wasn't easy but how often do you see our decent balls in result in open goals? I don't see opposition keepers cocking up like this so regularly
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Well, twice today. If you're going to criticize Howard for Stoke's second and third, I don't see how Butland can be blameless for our second and third.
 
Gwladys St. Glory said:
Oh dear...
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mlyons said:
Well, twice today. If you're going to criticize Howard for Stoke's second and third, I don't see how Butland can be blameless for our second and third.
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Don't see how a one on one and a tap in from a cross where butland's fault. Howard actually pushed it to their man for the open goal. Barkley played a perfect pass to del. And lukaku was through on goal. Not really the same?
 
maccavennie said:
Do you want to go and knock on the door of the 40,000 fans who turned up today and tell them maybe it's time to get behind the players instead of making them mental before a ball has been kicked?. Plus you might want to add the 40,000 who turned up against Leicester, oh and the 37,000 who turned up against Palace.

You know what,maybe we should tell them all not to turn up at all and with our free flowing football we would smash everyone into oblivion.

We've given up 19 goals at home because our tit of a manager can't organise a team properly. Don't believe me? Check out home record from last season as well.
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So you think jeering your own players helps? Fine. The fans have every right to do it. They pay for the tickets. I just don't see how it helps the squad in any way. Booing a performance is completely acceptable. Just think the team needs the fans behind them during the match, and more than anything the defense does.
 
carolinablue232 said:
So you think jeering your own players helps? Fine. The fans have every right to do it. They pay for the tickets. I just don't see how it helps the squad in any way. Booing a performance is completely acceptable. Just think the team needs the fans behind them during the match, and more than anything the defense does.
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We will agree to disagree I think.
 
ToffeeTim said:
Don't see how a one on one and a tap in from a cross where butland's fault. Howard actually pushed it to their man for the open goal. Barkley played a perfect pass to del. And lukaku was through on goal. Not really the same?
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Shaqiri's second was a one on one, and Joselu's goal came from a perfect cross. Very much the same. Butland came nowhere near getting a foot to Lukaku's shot on the one on one, and Barkley's cross for the Deulofeu goal was fizzed right through the six yard box in front of Butland.

They're quality goals -- it would take really good work from a goalkeeper to keep them out. But we're always willing to give opposition goalkeepers the benefit of the doubt on those plays and never our own.
 
mlyons said:
Shaqiri's second was a one on one, and Joselu's goal came from a perfect cross. Very much the same. Butland came nowhere near getting a foot to Lukaku's shot on the one on one, and Barkley's cross for the Deulofeu goal was fizzed right through the six yard box in front of Butland.

They're quality goals -- it would take really good work from a goalkeeper to keep them out. But we're always willing to give opposition goalkeepers the benefit of the doubt on those plays and never our own.
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well i didn't really see it like that. I thought howard was off his line and then flapped. But its opinions like
 
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