Transfer Rumour Thierno Barry

[allen]

I'd rather watch the player myself and judge.

Football is more enjoyable that way,in my EXTREMELY humble opinion.

You prefer watching football being played to analysing spreadsheets?

 

[ElGato]

not really, hes scored 11 goals but he should of scored 12.

So the chances hes missed equates to 1 goal. So either hes missed a shed load of shots from places of low xg that he was never going to score from (outside the box or really poor angels) or hes missed a few really good chances (which could be a miss on his part or keepers making fantastic saves).

So which ever way you look at it the xg says hes not missing alot of clear cut chances.

I was just joshing you chief

But thanks for clarifying with this

 

[micknick]

But does he know the city

 

[Boston Blue Sox]

As someone who also loves baseball, it's hilarious seeing football fans fighting the exact same "stats vs. eye test" war that baseball fans already fought 25 years ago. (BTW, stats won the war in a rout).

 

[Exeter_Gently]

As someone who also loves baseball, it's hilarious seeing football fans fighting the exact same "stats vs. eye test" war that baseball fans already fought 25 years ago. (BTW, stats won the war in a rout).

I don't dispute the stats but it takes the enjoyment out of sports.

It puts paid to discussion and opinion.

I like sitting in the pub with my mates and discussing why I think said player is good or bad from how I view the game.

As soon as you pull a stats and pie charts it ends all debate.

It's boring.

 

[cronullasharks]

I don't dispute the stats but it takes the enjoyment out of sports.

It puts paid to discussion and opinion.

I like sitting in the pub with my mates and discussing why I think said player is good or bad from how I view the game.

As soon as you pull a stats and pie charts it ends all debate.

It's boring.

Also, as we're not the ones actually doing the scouting for the club there's no real point to it other than being able to be correct on the internet. And as far as I know, no one bothers trying to do that..

Oh, hang on...

 

[Boston Blue Sox]

I don't dispute the stats but it takes the enjoyment out of sports.

It puts paid to discussion and opinion.

I like sitting in the pub with my mates and discussing why I think said player is good or bad from how I view the game.

As soon as you pull a stats and pie charts it ends all debate.

It's boring.

Lol, and that perfectly describes the new war baseball has moved onto as well. We've all conceded that stats do the best job at predicting and optimizing performance, but now many people hate the way the game is played and discussed.

 

[davids]

You mean the stats that professional football scouts use?

The eye test trumps nothing because people are blinded by bias and as such see what they want to see most of the time.

Stats are facts not opinion and theres a reason why teams are finding major success signing players using these stats. Only have to look across the park to see that.

So let me get this straight in my own mind.
So Barry takes up a position on the edge of the six yard box with only the keeper between him and the back of the net,now let's say Pape Gueye beats a player on the edge of the box but slightly over runs the ball so ends up blasting it in Barry's direction from about 4 meters away and and before he can react it hits his knee and goes over the bar.
So that's a big chance missed and becomes part of his "stats"?

 

[Bluewolf]

FWIW: Isak had a 6 goal season in La Liga when he was Barry's age (22).

Imagine what his xG charts looked like for that season

21/22 season (season before he joined Newcastle) isak scored 6 goasl and had a xg of 11

 

[Librarian]

The main stat that I would pay attention to is his impact for his team; how they perform with him vs without.

Villarreal’s win percentage with Barry is at 55%, compared to 40-45% without him.

 

[rochdaleblue]

The main stat that I would pay attention to is his impact for his team; how they perform with him vs without.

Villarreal’s win percentage with Barry is at 55%, compared to 40-45% without him.

In saying that Doucoure’s impact when he played for Everton was even greater, yet 95% of the fan base didn’t want him.

 

[BainesontoastNEW]

21/22 season (season before he joined Newcastle) isak scored 6 goasl and had a xg of 11

So even Isak has underperformed and he's considered one of the best in the business.

 

[Clarky cat]

As someone who also loves baseball, it's hilarious seeing football fans fighting the exact same "stats vs. eye test" war that baseball fans already fought 25 years ago. (BTW, stats won the war in a rout).

Can you please express this opinion in graph form? The very least you could do is display it in a Venn diagram.

 

[barneygumble]

As someone who also loves baseball, it's hilarious seeing football fans fighting the exact same "stats vs. eye test" war that baseball fans already fought 25 years ago. (BTW, stats won the war in a rout).

The nerdiest of all sports, and that's why I love it.

Imagine the Gwladys asking what the FIP is, mid game?

 

[Groucho]

The 2 most camp names in the history of mankind

Surly that’s Tarquin?