Current Affairs The Would Be Emperor Has No Clothes (aka POTUS 47)

[carolinablue232]

Trump has nothing to do with 2025; he has explicitly distanced himself from it.

What is Project 2025? Wish list for Trump second term, explained

A conservative think tank set out a sweeping vision for governing that could influence Trump's next term. What influence has it had so far?

www.bbc.co.uk

We’ll find out soon…Can almost guarantee he’ll be going for some of what’s in it.

 

[Zatara]

The presidents a criminal mate

Isnt it interesting

 

[TN Toffee]

They can't remove the browns because if they do, how are they gonna blame the browns?

Don’t you worry. They’ll find a way.

 

[Bruce Wayne]

There will always be a stream of workers that will apply LEGALLY.

I do not support criminals.



Which the Americans have chosen to vote for...

Seems like youre the one "spouting utter drivel".

You blow smoke up Musk's backside. He's an "illegal immigrant". What is it about the white gazillionaire that you find different to the others?

 

[LinekersLegs]

Deporting criminals is a reasonable measure that most people can support. However, forcibly removing entire families and deporting millions en masse is madness

A few years ago there was a bipartisan effort in the House to try to revamp the antiquated and flawed H2A visa process which is the only legal way that a lot of the undocumented agricultural workers could be in the country.

Immigrant Farmworkers and America's Food Production - 5 Things to Know - Fwd.us

Modernizing the temporary visa program, and establishing a pathway to citizenship for long-term undocumented agricultural workers, is urgently needed to protect America’s agriculture industry and farmworkers alike.

www.fwd.us

It was a long way from being a perfect bill but it would have been a start at fixing some of the issues.

The GOP killed it in the Senate.

 

[Rita_Poon]

You blow smoke up Musk's backside. He's an "illegal immigrant". What is it about the white gazillionaire that you find different to the others?

 

[GoldenToffee]

Deporting criminals is a reasonable measure that most people can support. However, forcibly removing entire families and deporting millions en masse is madness

Vance said publicly recently (paraphrasing) they'd start with the ones that have committed crimes since being in the country and aim to get about a million out in the first year.

Seems fair enough to me.

But they've not given any clue about how they'll actually do it, so I remain intrigued.

There will be no deportation of 10+ million illegals, at any time, over the next 5 years imo.

 

[Rita_Poon]

"you've commit a crime, now trump is in we're prepared to catch you because it means you can be deported."

I see no flaw in this at all. :/

 

[Bruce Wayne]

Vance said publicly recently (paraphrasing) they'd start with the ones that have committed crimes since being in the country and aim to get about a million out in the first year.

Seems fair enough to me.

But they've not given any clue about how they'll actually do it, so I remain intrigued.

There will be no deportation of 10+ million illegals, at any time, over the next 5 years imo.

It's well documented that crime rates are significantly lower among undocumented migrants than the native population. Indeed, as we've seen here, many undocumented individuals are likely to be victims of crime, but don't wish to report those crimes because the police shop them to immigration authorities. What a great society.

 

[LostLegend]

I believe Obama holds the record for modern presidents in terms of sheer number of people deported, with 2.5 million over his 8 years in office.
Compared with 2 million for 'Dubya' Bush (over 2 terms), 1.5 million for Trumps term and about the same so far for Biden (1 term only)

Biden's is significantly higher if you include the emergency measures used during Covid at the border.

1 million in a year is a big step up though, but considering the Border agency reported over 2 million crossing the southern border last year alone, I'm not sure how much of dent they can realistically make even with mass deportations.

Southwest Land Border Encounters

Securing America's Borders

www.cbp.gov

Still think it looks like political posturing to me - sounds better to the voters than actually investing in a longer term, more effective plan at the border itself.

 

[efcste97]

 

[Blue 1]

God almighty.

This is going to end really badly.

 

[bluestevon]

I believe Obama holds the record for modern presidents in terms of sheer number of people deported, with 2.5 million over his 8 years in office.
Compared with 2 million for 'Dubya' Bush (over 2 terms), 1.5 million for Trumps term and about the same so far for Biden (1 term only)

Biden's is significantly higher if you include the emergency measures used during Covid at the border.

1 million in a year is a big step up though, but considering the Border agency reported over 2 million crossing the southern border last year alone, I'm not sure how much of dent they can realistically make even with mass deportations.

Southwest Land Border Encounters

Securing America's Borders

www.cbp.gov

Still think it looks like political posturing to me - sounds better to the voters than actually investing in a longer term, more effective plan at the border itself.

I would say having COVID for half his term in office rampaging across the country likely was a significant factor in those numbers not being way way higher for Trump.

The way to stop the flow is on the border before they enter. Both in cost and efficiency. Until that happens it's a finger in a leaking damn scenario.

 

[Amw79]

God almighty.

This is going to end really badly.

The American dream in action. Pay a billionaire €8 per month, to submit an application to work for 80 hours a week for zero remuneration.

 

[Amw79]

I would say having COVID for half his term in office rampaging across the country likely was a significant factor in those numbers not being way way higher for Trump.

The way to stop the flow is on the border before they enter. Both in cost and efficiency. Until that happens it's a finger in a leaking damn scenario.

Over egging that a bit.