Current Affairs The WOKE

[Lobster Johnson]

I wouldn't say its an issue of white/black more upper+middle class/working class hence why for me white privilege is racially inflammatory nonsense designed to divide the proletariat.

Statistically working class kids are more likely to either come from single parent homes/parents who don't value education highly themselves. You also then have cultural issues such as gangs etc.

Compare that to middle class kids and kids from Asian backgrounds who typically come from two parent households who value education - how many asian kids do you see hanging around in gangs thuggin and shooting/stabbing aspiring rappers from the estate ?

These are difficult conversations that need to be had but its much easier to just blame the evil white man and all the privilege that they hold on the world.

Hate to point it out but you forgot to give any supporting evidence. Sure it was an oversight.

 

[bluestevon]

Hi Big Vlad, can you explain what Wokeism means please?

I wouldn't waste the time trying to explain anything to you mate.

Have a nice celebratory December period.

 

[ForeverBlue92]

Hate to point it out but you forgot to give any supporting evidence. Sure it was an oversight.

I dont do research for people its all oot there for you my friend. Even if I did show evidence you would twist it to support your own narrative/belief because people by nature do not want to admit they've been living a lie for so long.

Another good example is Eastern European migrants - majority work their bollox off for minimal wage/tough jobs and many live in HMO's, bedsits, rental properties - they dont own properties or have much economic clout and some have/are subjected to bigoted/racist abuse yet they're predominantly caucasian themselves so how does white privilege work there ?

If the left want to help people of all colours and creeds then they need to do that by education and financial support NOT by playing races, gender and those of differing sexual orientation off against one another.

 

[Goat]

I wouldn't waste the time trying to explain anything to you mate.

Have a nice celebratory December period.

Have a great 7th Jan comrade.

 

[verreauxi]

White privilege is a political ploy to divide people. It doesn't actually exist...or something.

 

[Blue 1]

Jesus Christ, I've read some bollox in my time but this thread just about tops the lot.

 

[verreauxi]

 

[Blue 1]

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Wokey be gone!

 

[Ollie d]

I wouldn't say its an issue of white/black more upper+middle class/working class hence why for me white privilege is racially inflammatory nonsense designed to divide the proletariat.

Statistically working class kids are more likely to either come from single parent homes/parents who don't value education highly themselves. You also then have cultural issues such as gangs etc.

Compare that to middle class kids and kids from Asian backgrounds who typically come from two parent households who value education - how many asian kids do you see hanging around in gangs thuggin and shooting/stabbing aspiring rappers from the estate ?

These are difficult conversations that need to be had but its much easier to just blame the evil white man and all the privilege that they hold on the world.

How does that fit in with your previous comments on Asian grooming gangs? Or is it that there's shoitebags in every community so you can't pigeonhole people no matter how you see fit?

 

[Daveysgingerlovechild]

I dont do research for people its all oot there for you my friend. Even if I did show evidence you would twist it to support your own narrative/belief because people by nature do not want to admit they've been living a lie for so long.

Another good example is Eastern European migrants - majority work their bollox off for minimal wage/tough jobs and many live in HMO's, bedsits, rental properties - they dont own properties or have much economic clout and some have/are subjected to bigoted/racist abuse yet they're predominantly caucasian themselves so how does white privilege work there ?

If the left want to help people of all colours and creeds then they need to do that by education and financial support NOT by playing races, gender and those of differing sexual orientation off against one another.

On one hand you are disputing groups suffer from discrimination and barriers before suggesting another group do. In reality you are objecting to the terminology or focus.

But ultimately inequalities exist, right?

 

[Lobster Johnson]

I dont do research for people its all oot there for you my friend. Even if I did show evidence you would twist it to support your own narrative/belief because people by nature do not want to admit they've been living a lie for so long.

Another good example is Eastern European migrants - majority work their bollox off for minimal wage/tough jobs and many live in HMO's, bedsits, rental properties - they dont own properties or have much economic clout and some have/are subjected to bigoted/racist abuse yet they're predominantly caucasian themselves so how does white privilege work there ?

If the left want to help people of all colours and creeds then they need to do that by education and financial support NOT by playing races, gender and those of differing sexual orientation off against one another.

No evidence then. Cool.

 

[Prevenger17]

I dont do research

No kidding

 

[Moomin]

@ForeverBlue92 doesn't have Zen.

He just has Z

 

[Jebus_lives]

I had flu last week. Went into work. 4 of the team (not millennials) have now caught it and are off.

Good man. Don't pander to the lib fascists who would have you stay home.

 

[Jebus_lives]

I would say on the left the three most extreme elements are wokeys, communists & metropolitan elite (who I would rather not speak about).

The Left is largely a organised unit I would say compared to the right, so communists and the metropolitan elite aside, anyone who is woke will believe 95% of what liberals believe. The difference in the right is that the right is more fractured with more splinter groups from my casual observations - you have religious fundamentalists, capitalists/Tories, alt right, far right, skinheads etc. a wide range of people there who may not necessarily agree on even 50% of what the other group believes in.

So onto the point of what you were saying my friend - If I was to say to you that I believe white privilege to be racist terminology developed by the elite to divide and conquer us plebs on the grounds of race in modern day Britain 2022 - a mild mannered Liberal would likely agree to disagree on that which is fair enough... whereas a wokey would call me deluded, racist, a right wing nutter and demand me lose my job and have all my social media accounts closed by the authorities.

Thats the difference between a liberal and a wokey - I dont know what your reaction would be so I couldn't tell you if I believe you to be one or the other.

You also have to factor in a proportion of those on the left who often will react in an aggressive manner are the types who burn and smash innocent peoples property in the name of "protest", throw stones and eggs at opposition politicans and so on which for me makes them fascist.