Current Affairs The WOKE

[wandyr79]

Here's the thing though when something pushed initially by activists (which by the very nature means they are extremist view - no need for activism if it's the commonly held view (in the purest origin of the word)) becomes the mainstream (at least in terms of how it's portrayed as being mainstream) viewpoint, then the extreme has become the mainstream.

Also to hold one opinion on one subject which may be termed woke doesn't mean you should hold all perceived woke viewpoints on the subjects deemed thus.

On just the points you listed as your views, I'd argue the case or merit on several and certain I'd agree with completely.

When challenged, 9/10 (if not 9.9) people who have just used it in an insulting way can never say what the viewpoints held by 'woke' people are.

That is the struggle we have with people who think 'wokeism' actually exists as a thing. If they were clear about what they mean, with specific examples, then we can have a rational debate with them as to how it exists but when we don't have any clue as to what they mean then we have to assume they have opinions and ideas that should be confined to the history books.

 

[Yarrgh]

There is always going to be extremes of anything, that is never going to change.

So, you are saying that only liberal extremists are woke, in your eyes, do I have that right?

I am certainly not extremist but if I say to you that white privilege does exist, black lives do matter, the LGBTQ+ community do deserve to be treated equally, women do have a place in football and I certainly don't mind if they are commentating on the men's game, would that make me woke, in your eyes?

OK for now ... until you try and ban Christmas.

 

[JimmyJeffers]

When challenged, 9/10 (if not 9.9) people who have just used it in an insulting way can never say what the viewpoints held by 'woke' people are.

That is the struggle we have with people who think 'wokeism' actually exists as a thing. If they were clear about what they mean, with specific examples, then we can have a rational debate with them as to how it exists but when we don't have any clue as to what they mean then we have to assume they have opinions and ideas that should be confined to the history books.

It’s a wonderful manufactured load of nonsense, designed to distract thick people from the cause of real problems and class conflict.
Anyone who uses the term in a non-ironic sense is clearly a bloater.

 

[ForeverBlue92]

There is always going to be extremes of anything, that is never going to change.

So, you are saying that only liberal extremists are woke, in your eyes, do I have that right?

I am certainly not extremist but if I say to you that white privilege does exist, black lives do matter, the LGBTQ+ community do deserve to be treated equally, women do have a place in football and I certainly don't mind if they are commentating on the men's game, would that make me woke, in your eyes?

I would say on the left the three most extreme elements are wokeys, communists & metropolitan elite (who I would rather not speak about).

The Left is largely a organised unit I would say compared to the right, so communists and the metropolitan elite aside, anyone who is woke will believe 95% of what liberals believe. The difference in the right is that the right is more fractured with more splinter groups from my casual observations - you have religious fundamentalists, capitalists/Tories, alt right, far right, anarchist skinheads etc. a wide range of people there who may not necessarily agree on even 50% of what the other group believes in.

So onto the point of what you were saying - If I was to say to you that I believe white privilege to be racist terminology developed by the elite to divide and conquer us plebs on the grounds of race in modern day Britain 2022 - a mild mannered Liberal would likely agree to disagree on that fine whereas a wokey would call me deluded, racist, a right wing nutter and demand me lose my job and have all my social media accounts closed by the authorities.

Thats the difference between a liberal and a wokey - I dont know what your reaction would be so I couldn't tell you if I believe you to be one or another.

You also have to factor in a proportion of those on the left who often will react in an aggressive manner at the types who burn and smash innocent peoples property in the name of "protest".

 

[ForeverBlue92]

There is always going to be extremes of anything, that is never going to change.

So, you are saying that only liberal extremists are woke, in your eyes, do I have that right?

I am certainly not extremist but if I say to you that white privilege does exist, black lives do matter, the LGBTQ+ community do deserve to be treated equally, women do have a place in football and I certainly don't mind if they are commentating on the men's game, would that make me woke, in your eyes?

I would say on the left the three most extreme elements are wokeys, communists & metropolitan elite (who I would rather not speak about).

The Left is largely a organised unit I would say compared to the right, so communists and the metropolitan elite aside, anyone who is woke will believe 95% of what liberals believe. The difference in the right is that the right is more fractured with more splinter groups from my casual observations - you have religious fundamentalists, capitalists/Tories, alt right, far right, skinheads etc. a wide range of people there who may not necessarily agree on even 50% of what the other group believes in.

So onto the point of what you were saying my friend - If I was to say to you that I believe white privilege to be racist terminology developed by the elite to divide and conquer us plebs on the grounds of race in modern day Britain 2022 - a mild mannered Liberal would likely agree to disagree on that which is fair enough... whereas a wokey would call me deluded, racist, a right wing nutter and demand me lose my job and have all my social media accounts closed by the authorities.

Thats the difference between a liberal and a wokey - I dont know what your reaction would be so I couldn't tell you if I believe you to be one or the other.

You also have to factor in a proportion of those on the left who often will react in an aggressive manner are the types who burn and smash innocent peoples property in the name of "protest", throw stones and eggs at opposition politicans and so on which for me makes them fascist.

 

[Noisy noise annoys]

I would say on the left the three most extreme elements are wokeys, communists & metropolitan elite (who I would rather not speak about).

The Left is largely a organised unit I would say compared to the right, so communists and the metropolitan elite aside, anyone who is woke will believe 95% of what liberals believe. The difference in the right is that the right is more fractured with more splinter groups from my casual observations - you have religious fundamentalists, capitalists/Tories, alt right, far right, skinheads etc. a wide range of people there who may not necessarily agree on even 50% of what the other group believes in.

So your on point of what you were saying - If I was to say to you that I believe white privilege to be racist terminology developed by the elite to divide and conquer us plebs on the grounds of race in modern day Britain 2022 - a mild mannered Liberal would likely agree to disagree on that which is fair enough... whereas a wokey would call me deluded, racist, a right wing nutter and demand me lose my job and have all my social media accounts closed by the authorities.

Thats the difference between a liberal and a wokey - I dont know what your reaction would be so I couldn't tell you if I believe you to be one or the other.

You also have to factor in a proportion of those on the left who often will react in an aggressive manner are the types who burn and smash innocent peoples property in the name of "protest", throw stones and eggs at opposition politicans and so on which for me makes them fascist.

You have got a head full of magic.

What the actual **** have you written above? It is as if you are living in a parrallel universe. None of it is true. You have made up some weird woke extrimist story in your head and now believe it is real.

One of the strangest things I have ever read on GOT

 

[Noisy noise annoys]

I would say on the left the three most extreme elements are wokeys, communists & metropolitan elite (who I would rather not speak about).

The Left is largely a organised unit I would say compared to the right, so communists and the metropolitan elite aside, anyone who is woke will believe 95% of what liberals believe. The difference in the right is that the right is more fractured with more splinter groups from my casual observations - you have religious fundamentalists, capitalists/Tories, alt right, far right, skinheads etc. a wide range of people there who may not necessarily agree on even 50% of what the other group believes in.

So onto the point of what you were saying my friend - If I was to say to you that I believe white privilege to be racist terminology developed by the elite to divide and conquer us plebs on the grounds of race in modern day Britain 2022 - a mild mannered Liberal would likely agree to disagree on that which is fair enough... whereas a wokey would call me deluded, racist, a right wing nutter and demand me lose my job and have all my social media accounts closed by the authorities.

Thats the difference between a liberal and a wokey - I dont know what your reaction would be so I couldn't tell you if I believe you to be one or the other.

You also have to factor in a proportion of those on the left who often will react in an aggressive manner are the types who burn and smash innocent peoples property in the name of "protest", throw stones and eggs at opposition politicans and so on which for me makes them fascist.

Give me some examples of extreme woke and I don't mean a couple of grams of speed.

 

[Daveysgingerlovechild]

I would say on the left the three most extreme elements are wokeys, communists & metropolitan elite (who I would rather not speak about).

The Left is largely a organised unit I would say compared to the right, so communists and the metropolitan elite aside, anyone who is woke will believe 95% of what liberals believe. The difference in the right is that the right is more fractured with more splinter groups from my casual observations - you have religious fundamentalists, capitalists/Tories, alt right, far right, skinheads etc. a wide range of people there who may not necessarily agree on even 50% of what the other group believes in.

So onto the point of what you were saying my friend - If I was to say to you that I believe white privilege to be racist terminology developed by the elite to divide and conquer us plebs on the grounds of race in modern day Britain 2022 - a mild mannered Liberal would likely agree to disagree on that which is fair enough... whereas a wokey would call me deluded, racist, a right wing nutter and demand me lose my job and have all my social media accounts closed by the authorities.

Thats the difference between a liberal and a wokey - I dont know what your reaction would be so I couldn't tell you if I believe you to be one or the other.

You also have to factor in a proportion of those on the left who often will react in an aggressive manner are the types who burn and smash innocent peoples property in the name of "protest", throw stones and eggs at opposition politicans and so on which for me makes them fascist.

Go on mate. Just for me. Pretty please?

 

[bluestevon]

When challenged, 9/10 (if not 9.9) people who have just used it in an insulting way can never say what the viewpoints held by 'woke' people are.

That is the struggle we have with people who think 'wokeism' actually exists as a thing. If they were clear about what they mean, with specific examples, then we can have a rational debate with them as to how it exists but when we don't have any clue as to what they mean then we have to assume they have opinions and ideas that should be confined to the history books.

Here's the thing though mate.

Wokeism actually does exist.

Take one look at politics where one 'cause' after another is pushed into the MSM - usually for either a short term political boost or as a way of distraction from genuine topics the government want off the front pages dye to not us ing a clue how to fix them.

Or take a look at celebrities - real or SOC so media creations of the tik tok Instagram generation. And how they go from one 'hot topic' to another pledging their deep insight, enlightenment and pain on behalf of whatever it may be that week.

All the above btw undermines genuine issues, genuine solutions and actually creates resentment where before there was none.

Just look at the farce in the USA atm over the alphabet+ soup brigade and how if anything it's creating animosity and worse against the very group it's supposed to be fighting for. How many actual gay people identify themselves with say celebrity drag queens or professional transexual Instagram celebrities - well they're all included now in one huge group - one co opted by an extreme minority of that group.

That's just one very topical example - I say that on social media I can guarantee I'd be called all sorts btw

 

[Noisy noise annoys]

I would say on the left the three most extreme elements are wokeys, communists & metropolitan elite (who I would rather not speak about).

The Left is largely a organised unit I would say compared to the right, so communists and the metropolitan elite aside, anyone who is woke will believe 95% of what liberals believe. The difference in the right is that the right is more fractured with more splinter groups from my casual observations - you have religious fundamentalists, capitalists/Tories, alt right, far right, skinheads etc. a wide range of people there who may not necessarily agree on even 50% of what the other group believes in.

So onto the point of what you were saying my friend - If I was to say to you that I believe white privilege to be racist terminology developed by the elite to divide and conquer us plebs on the grounds of race in modern day Britain 2022 - a mild mannered Liberal would likely agree to disagree on that which is fair enough... whereas a wokey would call me deluded, racist, a right wing nutter and demand me lose my job and have all my social media accounts closed by the authorities.

Thats the difference between a liberal and a wokey - I dont know what your reaction would be so I couldn't tell you if I believe you to be one or the other.

You also have to factor in a proportion of those on the left who often will react in an aggressive manner are the types who burn and smash innocent peoples property in the name of "protest", throw stones and eggs at opposition politicans and so on which for me makes them fascist.

lol

 

[Goat]

Here's the thing though mate.

Wokeism actually does exist.

Take one look at politics where one 'cause' after another is pushed into the MSM - usually for either a short term political boost or as a way of distraction from genuine topics the government want off the front pages dye to not us ing a clue how to fix them.

Or take a look at celebrities - real or SOC so media creations of the tik tok Instagram generation. And how they go from one 'hot topic' to another pledging their deep insight, enlightenment and pain on behalf of whatever it may be that week.

All the above btw undermines genuine issues, genuine solutions and actually creates resentment where before there was none.

Just look at the farce in the USA atm over the alphabet+ soup brigade and how if anything it's creating animosity and worse against the very group it's supposed to be fighting for. How many actual gay people identify themselves with say celebrity drag queens or professional transexual Instagram celebrities - well they're all included now in one huge group - one co opted by an extreme minority of that group.

That's just one very topical example - I say that on social media I can guarantee I'd be called all sorts btw

Hi Big Vlad, can you explain what Wokeism means please?

 

[Prevenger17]

I would say on the left the three most extreme elements are wokeys, communists & metropolitan elite (who I would rather not speak about).

The Left is largely a organised unit I would say compared to the right, so communists and the metropolitan elite aside, anyone who is woke will believe 95% of what liberals believe. The difference in the right is that the right is more fractured with more splinter groups from my casual observations - you have religious fundamentalists, capitalists/Tories, alt right, far right, anarchist skinheads etc. a wide range of people there who may not necessarily agree on even 50% of what the other group believes in.

So onto the point of what you were saying - If I was to say to you that I believe white privilege to be racist terminology developed by the elite to divide and conquer us plebs on the grounds of race in modern day Britain 2022 - a mild mannered Liberal would likely agree to disagree on that fine whereas a wokey would call me deluded, racist, a right wing nutter and demand me lose my job and have all my social media accounts closed by the authorities.

Thats the difference between a liberal and a wokey - I dont know what your reaction would be so I couldn't tell you if I believe you to be one or another.

You also have to factor in a proportion of those on the left who often will react in an aggressive manner at the types who burn and smash innocent peoples property in the name of "protest".

Lol what is any of this?

 

[Goat]

Lol what is any of this?

I believe the correct term is neo-nazism.

 

[Prevenger17]

I suppose if you were to map the mind of someone who practices both spirituality and nork-ogling, their posts would look like utter gibberish

 

[Goat]

These WOKIES seem like horrid people, they hate racism, homophobia and misogyny.

Thank God we have all those incel nazis calling them out.