Current Affairs The UK/EU thread....

[Bruce Wayne]

The agreements have the signature of the target country and the U.K. We have signed agreements. Perhaps you could point me to some point of law that negates a contract.....if the UK signature is null and void then so is the agreement from the rest of the EU....either we all have an agreement or no one has.....that's contract law.....

Of course - http://www.parliamentlive.tv/Event/Index/0b23ef43-957c-4a82-a169-aeeca40af09f

Or alternatively here - https://www.sussex.ac.uk/webteam/gateway/file.php?name=briefing-paper-2.pdf&site=18

This highlights the challenge - https://www.publications.parliament.uk/pa/cm201617/cmselect/cmintrade/817/81708.htm - as there seems division over whether it's possible or not, whilst the BBC economics editor believes it is, but it's complicated and requires much renegotiation - http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-37574598

Indeed, a leading law firm suggest that such 'grandfathering' is largely dependent upon the goodwill of the non-EU nation - https://www.monckton.com/brexit-mean-international-trade-agreements/, which given that they are in essence now dealing with a much smaller economy than the entire EU, must create a temptation to tinker with the terms.

As it is, those negotiations cannot, under EU law, take place whilst we are still members of the EU, so when we leave, those agreements appear to be null and void until such time as they be renegotiated.

 

[peteblue]

Of course - http://www.parliamentlive.tv/Event/Index/0b23ef43-957c-4a82-a169-aeeca40af09f

Or alternatively here - https://www.sussex.ac.uk/webteam/gateway/file.php?name=briefing-paper-2.pdf&site=18

This highlights the challenge - https://www.publications.parliament.uk/pa/cm201617/cmselect/cmintrade/817/81708.htm - as there seems division over whether it's possible or not, whilst the BBC economics editor believes it is, but it's complicated and requires much renegotiation - http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-37574598

Indeed, a leading law firm suggest that such 'grandfathering' is largely dependent upon the goodwill of the non-EU nation - https://www.monckton.com/brexit-mean-international-trade-agreements/, which given that they are in essence now dealing with a much smaller economy than the entire EU, must create a temptation to tinker with the terms.

As it is, those negotiations cannot, under EU law, take place whilst we are still members of the EU, so when we leave, those agreements appear to be null and void until such time as they be renegotiated.

As would the original EU agreement because the EU is now a smaller block......same for both sides....

 

[peteblue]

So now the EU have made Gibraltar an issue, this now makes a hard Brexit inevitable.........

 

[Bruce Wayne]

I suspect there will be a picture of Theresa in a tank before the weekend is out.

 

[Foot Long Hot Dog]

As would the original EU agreement because the EU is now a smaller block......same for both sides....

Nope, as the agreements don't become null and void as new nations are added so why so when 1 leaves?

The deals are a trading blocs agreements once we leave said bloc, I think its folly to assume that they'll still automatically apply to us as a solus nation

 

[peteblue]

Nope, as the agreements don't become null and void as new nations are added so why so when 1 leaves?

The deals are a trading blocs agreements once we leave said bloc, I think its folly to assume that they'll still automatically apply to us as a solus nation

It will apply as equally to the UK as to the rest of the EU

 

[bluecol]

It will apply as equally to the UK as to the rest of the EU

If the EU was simply a trading bloc, as it was when we joined the EEC, I'd be happy to stay in it. But it isn't, far from it, so we have to get out asap.

 

[peteblue]

If the EU was simply a trading bloc, as it was when we joined the EEC, I'd be happy to stay in it. But it isn't, far from it, so we have to get out asap.

And I totally agree with you. The faster the better for me.......

 

[Bruce Wayne]

If the EU was simply a trading bloc, as it was when we joined the EEC, I'd be happy to stay in it. But it isn't, far from it, so we have to get out asap.

That just betrays a lack of understanding of what trade actually means.