The Ronaldo case

[PhilM]

So when did she identify him?

I don't know the full details of the case apart from what the police and their representatives have said; these suggest she's only identified him by name recently.

Obviously there was a confidentiality agreement signed with the out-of-course settlement, which was in the next calendar year, that may have played a part in this.

Mayorga (the victim) disputes that she never told the LVMPD, but official documentation from the time is supposed to suggest to discredit her own claim.

Like I said, I'm not siding with either side and I hope there's a thorough investigation which either way leads to a credit verdict - be that for or against Ronaldo.

My point was only that the defence team would quite quickly use a few of these elements (failing to identify and the agreement) to their own advantage.

On the other hand, ff the reports are true that he admitted that she said no etc., then the prosectors will push this and it'll be very uncomfortable for the defence.

 

[EFCPaul]

Never got the "he's gay or bisexual" shouts personally and it's out of order.

Just because he's a young guy who doesn't have a wife or long-term girlfriend, and also clearly bit a vain about his appearence, doesn't mean he's not heterosexual or in any hiding something. Maybe he's just not overly interested settling with a woman at this stage of his life? Who cares if his mannerisms are a bit camp/feminine, loads of men are and they're straight as anything. Not all single men in their 20s are easy to get and obsessed with being seen with a fit woman.

It'll be interesting to see how this plays out but I find it very hard to believe if I'm honest. She's had years to come forward and hasn't, there doesn't appear to be any other accusers (with credibility at least) and he probably gets thousands of women throwing themselves at him anyway if he wanted it. Reeks of a cash grab but we'll wait and see.

 

[toffeejack]

Never got the "he's gay or bisexual" shouts personally and it's out of order.

Just because he's a young guy who doesn't have a wife or long-term girlfriend, and also clearly bit a vain about his appearence, doesn't mean he's not heterosexual or in any hiding something. Maybe he's just not overly interested settling with a woman at this stage of his life? Who cares if his mannerisms are a bit camp/feminine, loads of men are and they're straight as anything. Not all single men in their 20s are easy to get and obsessed with being seen with a fit woman.

It'll be interesting to see how this plays out but I find it very hard to believe if I'm honest. She's had years to come forward and hasn't, there doesn't appear to be any other accusers (with credibility at least) and he probably gets thousands of women throwing themselves at him anyway if he wanted it. Reeks of a cash grab but we'll wait and see.

as we've seen, he's become the top footballer because of his hard work and dedication. He probably feels he doesn't have enough time for a relationship. The fact he doesn't go out drinking etc. shows he's probably more interested in prioritising his work over his personal life.

 

[longers]

It'll be interesting to see how this plays out but I find it very hard to believe if I'm honest. She's had years to come forward and hasn't, there doesn't appear to be any other accusers (with credibility at least) and he probably gets thousands of women throwing themselves at him anyway if he wanted it. Reeks of a cash grab but we'll wait and see.

She came forward and reported it the next day, with physical examination and evidence gathered !

 

[EFCPaul]

as we've seen, he's become the top footballer because of his hard work and dedication. He probably feels he doesn't have enough time for a relationship. The fact he doesn't go out drinking etc. shows he's probably more interested in prioritising his work over his personal life.

His dad was an alcoholic and so he's tee-total from what I've read.

He's very close to his mum and his sisters, they've played a massive part in helping him raise his son and now his younger kids. He's obviously got a strong female presence in his life, therefore why is the any rush to shack up with any old woman who's nice on the eye? Clearly he's wary of bringing someone new into the family fold, that should be highly respected.

As you say, he's got decades to meet the right person and settle down but his career is only a short thing. It's probably for the best to totally dedicate himself to that at this stage in life.

 

[EFCPaul]

She came forward and reported it the next day, with physical examination and evidence gathered !

She didn't name him though apparently did she? That sets alarm bells off. And as I said it doesn't appear like anyone else is coming forward to give credibility to her claims and the man himself seems more than willing to co-operate fully.

I hope it's not true and right now I can honestly say I don't believe it is. You can't juat throw a person's reputation in the bin based off one person's accusation. Innocent until proven guilty but so many people are treat this issue like it's the other way round.

 

[longers]

She didn't name him though apparently did she? That sets alarm bells off. And as I said it doesn't appear like anyone else is coming forward to give credibility to her claims and the man himself seems more than willing to co-operate fully.

If she never named him why is there an NDA from 2009 ? The entire point is that her and her lawyers want to make the NDA null and void, thats the entire story.

 

[PhilM]

If she never named him why is there an NDA from 2009 ? The entire point is that her and her lawyers want to make the NDA null and void, thats the entire story.

As I mentioned earlier, according to the LVMPD reports from the time she never named her accuser. That's not claiming or supporting his innocence by the way.

 

[longers]

As I mentioned earlier, according to the LVMPD reports from the time she never named her accuser. That's not claiming or supporting his innocence by the way.

I see, missed your post. So basically at the moment the only thing indicating he's done something is the NDA, unless her legal team are lying about an NDA in one way or another ? which would be weird because their entire case is based around making an NDA void.

 

[goodisonopheliac]

Never got the "he's gay or bisexual" shouts personally and it's out of order.

Just because he's a young guy who doesn't have a wife or long-term girlfriend, and also clearly bit a vain about his appearence, doesn't mean he's not heterosexual or in any hiding something. Maybe he's just not overly interested settling with a woman at this stage of his life? Who cares if his mannerisms are a bit camp/feminine, loads of men are and they're straight as anything. Not all single men in their 20s are easy to get and obsessed with being seen with a fit woman.

It'll be interesting to see how this plays out but I find it very hard to believe if I'm honest. She's had years to come forward and hasn't, there doesn't appear to be any other accusers (with credibility at least) and he probably gets thousands of women throwing themselves at him anyway if he wanted it. Reeks of a cash grab but we'll wait and see.

It's not the fact he's vain or effeminate, it's the fact he used a surrogate mother that made me wonder, though tbh I still think he might be asexual. It doesn't really matter though.

 

[PhilM]

I see, missed your post. So basically at the moment the only thing indicating he's done something is the NDA, unless her legal team are lying about an NDA in one way or another ? which would be weird because their entire case is based around making an NDA void.

A non-disclosure agreement is not an admission of guilt either; in fact, I'm pretty confident that within the contract this will be clearly stated as part of the contract.

Basically, you can see it as either a way of silencing the individual to protect their guilt or silencing the individual to protect their credibility regardless of innocence.

It''s much simpler to pay up would be what a lawyer may say. If he is guilty though, then unfortunately for her the two elements highlighted will undermine her.

 

[f.t.r.s]

Far as i'm concerned she's after more money,
If she's serious why did she accept money in the first case? Surely you'd rather the guy be punished as clearly a fine is nothing to him.
Again if she's serious she should hand back every penny of the money she was allegedly paid and make it clear that she does not want any money whatsoever to be paid (other than legal costs) as a result of a case.
Only way i'd take her claims seriously.
Last thing i'd expect a rape victim to be concerned with is cash, stinks of the ched evans case for me, cry rape and make a payday

 

[Blueclouds]

Far as i'm concerned she's after more money,
If she's serious why did she accept money in the first case? Surely you'd rather the guy be punished as clearly a fine is nothing to him.
Again if she's serious she should hand back every penny of the money she was allegedly paid and make it clear that she does not want any money whatsoever to be paid (other than legal costs) as a result of a case.
Only way i'd take her claims seriously.
Last thing i'd expect a rape victim to be concerned with is cash, stinks of the ched evans case for me, cry rape and make a payday

Harsh statement wothout knowing the facts. You could flip the coin and say why pay out in the first place if he not guilty. This is not the first time a rape claim made against ronaldo

 

[f.t.r.s]

Harsh statement wothout knowing the facts. You could flip the coin and say why pay out in the first place if he not guilty. This is not the first time a rape claim made against ronaldo

I can understand why to be fair.
Rape claims, child molesting claims etc always stick regardless of the verdict, they always leave a question of doubt with the accused.
It also makes sense to keep it out of the public eye to avoid any adverse effects to his family and job etc.
I've never understood why a person would accept money rather than pursuing criminal punishment if they're telling the truth

 

[longers]

Few other bits of information, a term of the NDA was that Ronaldo had to read a letter which the woman had written for him, her lawyer emailed Ronaldos team to ask if this had been done by the set date. Ronaldos lawyers said 'yes' but then forwarded the email to another colleague saying 'pinnochio', this email chain was then leaked and this is the reason they are now trying to say they broke the NDA agreement and it should be made null and void.