Current Affairs The next Tory (strong and stable) leader is Boris Johnson

[Daveysgingerlovechild]

Did you used to work in the EU or are you just talking travelling, both of which can still be done. But have you even looked further or wider one of my sons lives and works in the USA, one lives in the far east but works full time in Saudi Arabia. There’s a big world out there but U.K. folk still work in the EU and travel around the EU, I’ll grant you though that the EU have tried to make it as difficult as possible.

Genuinely sorry to hear about your relatives, I am seeing similar problems, but it’s about time that the U.K. and EU countries started using national staff in the NHS and stop stealing it from poorer countries. The U.K. still allows immigration from pretty well most countries on Earth, including the EU to work here.

The Mark Carney statement will no doubt be debated by a range of far more economically and fiscal experts than myself. However the BoE, which he used to run is picking up its fair share of blame for allowing far too much money to enter the economy. Covid required a furlough scheme to keep families solvent, it required grants to businesses to keep them solvent, money was printed. I remember you saying about housing…banks inject too much money into lending offers, house building is nowhere near keeping pace, people borrow and push-up the price of housing, inflation literally goes through the roof. To cool the inflation BoE raises interest rates, mortgage rates go through roof, mortgages get pulled, sales decline and house prices fall. Cost of living goes through the roof. These pressures, inflation, bank rates, cost of living have always been around and are happening across the whole of the western world. But let’s blame Brexit…..

That's right. It's not all Brexit. 13yrs of terrible overall governance, the last 7 of it by chancers intimately linked to the Brexit project and a significant reason they got into power, key as well.

 

[Daveysgingerlovechild]

Great film, very underated.

Indeed. That scene is genius. Puerile, but genius. And I'll bet they find an illustration of a giant phallus facing down tanks in Johnson's notebooks.

 

[ChesterBlue]

Did you used to work in the EU or are you just talking travelling, both of which can still be done. But have you even looked further or wider one of my sons lives and works in the USA, one lives in the far east but works full time in Saudi Arabia. There’s a big world out there but U.K. folk still work in the EU and travel around the EU, I’ll grant you though that the EU have tried to make it as difficult as possible.

Genuinely sorry to hear about your relatives, I am seeing similar problems, but it’s about time that the U.K. and EU countries started using national staff in the NHS and stop stealing it from poorer countries. The U.K. still allows immigration from pretty well most countries on Earth, including the EU to work here.

The Mark Carney statement will no doubt be debated by a range of far more economically and fiscal experts than myself. However the BoE, which he used to run is picking up its fair share of blame for allowing far too much money to enter the economy. Covid required a furlough scheme to keep families solvent, it required grants to businesses to keep them solvent, money was printed. I remember you saying about housing…banks inject too much money into lending offers, house building is nowhere near keeping pace, people borrow and push-up the price of housing, inflation literally goes through the roof. To cool the inflation BoE raises interest rates, mortgage rates go through roof, mortgages get pulled, sales decline and house prices fall. Cost of living goes through the roof. These pressures, inflation, bank rates, cost of living have always been around and are happening across the whole of the western world. But let’s blame Brexit…..

That’s such an unbelievably callous and arrogant response. If you’re still defending voting for economic suicide and irreparable damage to young British people’s future’s then fine, but claiming the cost of living crisis has nothing to do with brexit is disingenuous and incorrect.

 

[peteblue]

That's right. It's not all Brexit. 13yrs of terrible overall governance, the last 7 of it by chancers intimately linked to the Brexit project and a significant reason they got into power, key as well.

Indeed. It’s too easy to blame Incompetence on Brexit….

 

[Daveysgingerlovechild]

Indeed. It’s too easy to blame Incompetence on Brexit….

They're synonymous in my view. Without the incompetents, snake oil salespeople and charlatans, no Brexit. But going back to the economy, Brexit does play a part. Its not made life easier.

 

[peteblue]

They're synonymous in my view. Without the incompetents, snake oil salespeople and charlatans, no Brexit. But going back to the economy, Brexit does play a part. Its not made life easier.

Of course it plays a part, just as Covid and the Ukraine war do. Big events such as these always have an effect. I’ve said all the way through Brexit that we would take an economic hit, and we have, but it’s a mixture of events we are feeling now and people should understand this. I do react against what I regard as the lazy, and incorrect, view that it’s all down to Brexit……

 

[Kurt.]

Did you used to work in the EU or are you just talking travelling, both of which can still be done. But have you even looked further or wider one of my sons lives and works in the USA, one lives in the far east but works full time in Saudi Arabia. There’s a big world out there but U.K. folk still work in the EU and travel around the EU, I’ll grant you though that the EU have tried to make it as difficult as possible.

Genuinely sorry to hear about your relatives, I am seeing similar problems, but it’s about time that the U.K. and EU countries started using national staff in the NHS and stop stealing it from poorer countries. The U.K. still allows immigration from pretty well most countries on Earth, including the EU to work here.

The Mark Carney statement will no doubt be debated by a range of far more economically and fiscal experts than myself. However the BoE, which he used to run is picking up its fair share of blame for allowing far too much money to enter the economy. Covid required a furlough scheme to keep families solvent, it required grants to businesses to keep them solvent, money was printed. I remember you saying about housing…banks inject too much money into lending offers, house building is nowhere near keeping pace, people borrow and push-up the price of housing, inflation literally goes through the roof. To cool the inflation BoE raises interest rates, mortgage rates go through roof, mortgages get pulled, sales decline and house prices fall. Cost of living goes through the roof. These pressures, inflation, bank rates, cost of living have always been around and are happening across the whole of the western world. But let’s blame Brexit…..

The EU haven’t made travelling difficult Pete, they are simply applying the rules and regulations they’ve always had for non EU citizens, leaving the EU is what made it difficult.

 

[peteblue]

That’s such an unbelievably callous and arrogant response. If you’re still defending voting for economic suicide and irreparable damage to young British people’s future’s then fine, but claiming the cost of living crisis has nothing to do with brexit is disingenuous and incorrect.

Sorry, if that’s how it comes across, certainly not meant that way….

 

[peteblue]

The EU haven’t made travelling difficult Pete, they are simply applying the rules and regulations they’ve always had for non EU citizens, leaving the EU is what made it difficult.

Of course, I remember how incredibly generous they were in respect of Northern Ireland. We should all bow down at the altar of Brussels and thank them for being so generous to the U.K. … or we could have worked out a sensible partnership arrangement, but of course that might undermine the Superstate project….

 

[spectateur]

I think that’s a fair point Prev, and while I don’t know of anyone who has been negatively affected by Brexit, and I really do know an awful lot of people, I’m sure that there must be some for whom it’s introduced problems. It would be good to hear on here those that have been affected and in what way……

You can don't know of anyone adversely affected by Brexit?
In what sort of bubble do you live?
Well I decided to live my retirement in France, easy 15 years ago.
Just a few of the inconveniences brought about by Brexit,
Can't vote in local or European elections.
Now have to have a residency permit.
Customs forms etc needed to send things to family in UK
Pet's passport no longer accepted. Now costs a small fortune to bring a dog on holiday.
Barclaycard cancels accounts.
Many small traders will no longer ship goods to a French address.
Imported cars from UK must change plates within 3 months.

Enough to make life more difficult for thousands of émigrent Brits.

 

[Nightman]

Of course it plays a part, just as Covid and the Ukraine war do. Big events such as these always have an effect. I’ve said all the way through Brexit that we would take an economic hit, and we have, but it’s a mixture of events we are feeling now and people should understand this. I do react against what I regard as the lazy, and incorrect, view that it’s all down to Brexit……

Easy for comfortable retirees (or close to it), with no mortgage, with savings and pensions to 'take the hit'. It's the younger generations that have to live with your decision and actually take the hit. And it's a devastating hit.

 

[Bruce Wayne]

It was mentioned earlier about NHS spending going up. What that comment failed to mention was that government expenditure since 2016 has gone up by 21% (versus 27% for the NHS as a whole). If you look at the growth in NHS expenditure in those terms, then it works out at about £25 million extra per week over and above the growth in government spending as a whole.

 

[Nightman]

Sorry, if that’s how it comes across, certainly not meant that way….

I didn't take it that way mate.

 

[Kurt.]

Of course, I remember how incredibly generous they were in respect of Northern Ireland. We should all bow down at the altar of Brussels and thank them for being so generous to the U.K. … or we could have worked out a sensible partnership arrangement, but of course that might undermine the Superstate project….

You voted out… that’s what you got mate, not out but keeping the good bits

 

[Goat]

You voted out… that’s what you got mate, not out but keeping the good bits

How DARE they give us what "We" voted for.