Current Affairs The next Tory (strong and stable) leader is Boris Johnson

[Kurt.]

No, but he will deliver what I want for the U.K….

What a hill to die on ….

 

[peteblue]

I could understand this level of him being obnoxious and arrogant about the situation if he was an Eton schooled Tory, but by the amount of time he spends on GOT, I’m guessing that’s actually rather far from the truth.

Comes across a bit like my arl fella, who was born in poverty in the south end of Liverpool, still doesn’t have a lot, but comes out with the most incredible mental gymnastics to validate himself voting Tory.

When I last challenged his opinion on Boris Johnson, he started banging on about Tony Blair, like that was going to deflect from what is actually going on.

I think it’s a generation thing, added to the fact that they don’t give a toss about anything but themselves, added to the fact that they are happy to turn a blind eye rather than admit they’ve backed a wrongun.

Your dad sounds like a sensible person…..

 

[PhilM]

Johnson is definitely going down the line of defiance and absurdity as the last line of defence.

 

[Blue 1]

No, but he will deliver what I want for the U.K….

At what cost?

Where do you draw the line?

He's made us an international laughing stock and is well on the way to making us a pariah state that can't be trusted on anything.

 

[DuuuncanHadaPigeon]

No, but he will deliver what I want for the U.K….

Sounds quite selfish to me, not very British at all. You believe that what you want for the UK is in the best interests of the country, therefore you will support a man that brings that. The question is, what is your red line? at what point does he become unpalatable to you? There are other people that could deliver brexit and a vaccine rollout, it is not unique to Alexander, so where is your line?
I bet pete will come back and say something like 'an illegal war like tony blair'

 

[Thomasc]

Why are you getting so wound up?…..

I’m not, I’m trying to open sensible debate which you seem incapable of.

 

[Thomasc]

Your dad sounds like a sensible person…..

To be honest I’m quite embarrassed of him, he seems morally bankrupt.

 

[Lobster Johnson]

Yeah, blame Boris because a bunch of anti-vaxxers led by Piers Corbyn calls Starmer a traitor etc etc…..

So there's no connection between a bunch of thugs shouting "Jimmy Saville" at the leader of the opposition whilst carrying a noose and the PM in

I look at what is really going on, not the media whipped up hysteria that is lapped up by the rest of you. Bunch of lefty anti-vaxxers wound up by Piers Corbyn call Starmer a traitor…but it’s all Boris’ fault………Not a single one of you will say anything about Piers, just because his surname is Corbyn…….

Piers Corbyn is an anti vax, climate change denying lunatic.

Boris Johnson is responsible for introducing the false Saville narrative to public discourse.

Not hard, is it?

 

[peteblue]

Sounds quite selfish to me, not very British at all. You believe that what you want for the UK is in the best interests of the country, therefore you will support a man that brings that. The question is, what is your red line? at what point does he become unpalatable to you? There are other people that could deliver brexit and a vaccine rollout, it is not unique to Alexander, so where is your line?
I bet pete will come back and say something like 'an illegal war like tony blair'

Theresa May could not deliver Brexit, and she was quite a competent PM. But she didn’t have the drive and exuberance to carry people with her and she failed. Most of the rest of the Tories are lightweights and Starmer is a complete waste of space. So for me I hope he stays and sees it all through. I can’t get wound up about him having a cake or wine and cheese, and I agree with what he said about Starmer (not that he personally did sod all, but that he was in overall charge at the time)…….

 

[peteblue]

To be honest I’m quite embarrassed of him, he seems morally bankrupt.

But you said he grew up skint and still is, yet managed to raise you up. My guess would be that he used to vote Labour but changed his view in the 80’s……

 

[DuuuncanHadaPigeon]

Theresa May could not deliver Brexit, and she was quite a competent PM. But she didn’t have the drive and exuberance to carry people with her and she failed. Most of the rest of the Tories are lightweights and Starmer is a complete waste of space. So for me I hope he stays and sees it all through. I can’t get wound up about him having a cake or wine and cheese, and I agree with what he said about Starmer (not that he personally did sod all, but that he was in overall charge at the time)…….

Didn't answer my question. You can trivialize it all you want as just 'having a cake or wine and cheese' but you know full well its more than that. It is flagrant rule breaking at a time when he was personally telling us all to do the opposite.

it's not a small issue, its complete hypocrisy. I understand your point of view that you will allow certain things as long as he gets the main job done and I have no problem with that as no one is perfect, but at some point he will do something even you can't defend and I'd like to know what that is? This point has come for many tory mps and tory votes not just crazy lefties

Using your own logic, Boris was in overall charge at the time when there was countless parties going on often in his own house, so he is responsible for that. That logic you use to slander Starmer could so easily be used to say, anything bad that has happened in this government is completely on Boris' shoulders. Will you use the same logic fairly, or just when you want to slag off starmer?

 

[Blue 1]

 

[mahermi1]

No, but he will deliver what I want for the U.K….

And that's Brexit is it ? Well go on tell us what has Brexit done for you and your pub Peter ? Has it got you more customers, cheaper beer ?
I know a lot of lies was spread to get it through, what was it £350m or something to the Health Service ? Apparently not that it bothers you, the NHS is still waiting for that money. So am I right to start with, you stand for Brexit, Johnson even though he just lies and smears innocent people, that not something you care about, or is it just what's in your pocket...

 

[Amw79]

I look at what is really going on, not the media whipped up hysteria that is lapped up by the rest of you. Bunch of lefty anti-vaxxers wound up by Piers Corbyn call Starmer a traitor…but it’s all Boris’ fault………Not a single one of you will say anything about Piers, just because his surname is Corbyn…….

Just to add to the voices.

Piers Corbyn is an absolute cretin, who’s lost the plot entirely (if indeed he ever had it) and spouts dangerous nonsense. No-one should take the guy seriously or listen a word he says.

Happy to admit you’re totally wrong on that point now Pete?

 

[Ghost Rider]

The Twittersphere has apparently been inundated overnight with messages supporting the buffoon.

Strangely they are all exactly the same and mostly linked to accounts claiming allegiance to football clubs to give them street cred.

As if any self respecting footy fan would be deceived by such blatant gibberish.

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It was found before the last election that there were accounts created to post support for the conservatives. All the fake accounts were designed to be as neutral as possible , so covering all minorities, noble professions etc.

Nothing ever came from that either.