Current Affairs The next Tory (strong and stable) leader is Boris Johnson

[catcherintherye]

I agree about rental costs which look ridiculously high. I see small properties with rents that appear more than a mortgage for the same place. I was also watching a programme tonight where some pub landlord, who has been unable to open because of Covid, now owes £40K to the building owner. When people invest their money they should get a return, but the problem now is that we have landlords taking a mortgage and renting out, thereby passing on the mortgage and an additional landlord profit onto the renter, which I feel is wrong. It would be interesting to here the views of posters on here who do rent out properties....

The debate becomes difficult, and people take it very personally. It's not really meant that way. It's more just, that structurally it's a big problem. Wages have continued to rise at a fairly steady, controllable rate, but building costs, housing costs and rents have had hyper inflation.

 

[JimmyJeffers]

The debate becomes difficult, and people take it very personally. It's not really meant that way. It's more just, that structurally it's a big problem. Wages have continued to rise at a fairly steady, controllable rate, but building costs, housing costs and rents have had hyper inflation.

Gotta couple of mates who have several properties each. One would identify as left wing and the other as socialist. I know it causes a bit of inner conflict with their wider philosophies but they’ve got used to the processes and identifying market value.
Also something like a major roof repair can severely dent their finances.
I know one of them lowered all the rents for tenants that had been furloughed and do think landlords get an (often deserved) bad press. It’s a tough one. I tend to see people paying more for rent than a mortgage, which can’t be right, but bad credit or lack of a lump sum, gatekeeps people in the rental market. Especially within the gig economy.

 

[catcherintherye]

Gotta couple of mates who have several properties each. One would identify as left wing and the other as socialist. I know it causes a bit of inner conflict with their wider philosophies but they’ve got used to the processes and identifying market value.
Also something like a major roof repair can severely dent their finances.
I know one of them lowered all the rents for tenants that had been furloughed and do think landlords get an (often deserved) bad press. It’s a tough one. I tend to see people paying more for rent than a mortgage, which can’t be right, but bad credit or lack of a lump sum, gatekeeps people in the rental market. Especially within the gig economy.

Often left wing people who critique the system understand it very well.

It's not really about slaughtering landlords. It's just about saying, the system is unregulated and too expensive. Landlords will often twist it as an attack. It's not. But housing and rentier costs have gone through the roof, and understandably wages couldn't keep up.

It would be awful for me, as a new home owner, with 20 odd years to pay back if housing costs dropped. I get that. I get it would be bad for landlords. But objectively it's hard not to see it would be beneficial for society.

 

[DanEFC92]

Worst of all time.

 

[summerisle]

 

[NilSatisOptimum]

Boris is done as PM as soon as the pandemic recedes. Awful. The worst PM in my lifetime.

 

[tsubaki]

Boris is done as PM as soon as the pandemic recedes. Awful. The worst PM in my lifetime.

we’ve had three of those in succession though, and there’s every chance the fourth will be even worse

 

[NilSatisOptimum]

we’ve had three of those in succession though, and there’s every chance the fourth will be even worse

Johnson is a country mile ahead of Major Cameron and May, in being the most incompetent. The Tories have pinged back to being run by incompetent old Etonians, who are no longer fit to govern, they were never fit to govern but thats another debate.

 

[JimmyJeffers]

Johnson is a country mile ahead of Major Cameron and May, in being the most incompetent. The Tories have pinged back to being run by incompetent old Etonians, who are no longer fit to govern, they were never fit to govern but thats another debate.

I like this debate. Cameron was competent but posh and evil. May was given a near impossible job but was posh and evil. Johnson is posh and doesn’t care about anything but his own popularity. Probably the 3 worst PMs in my lifetime. Look at the state of things since they took over

 

[JimmyJeffers]

we’ve had three of those in succession though, and there’s every chance the fourth will be even worse

Patel would be among the front runners. Picture that

 

[gonetomorrow]

I like this debate. Cameron was competent but posh and evil. May was given a near impossible job but was posh and evil. Johnson is posh and doesn’t care about anything but his own popularity. Probably the 3 worst PMs in my lifetime. Look at the state of things since they took over

Johnson is evil too. Ask one of his kids what it's like when daddy forgets your birthday (and your name).

 

[Barnfred 55]

Boris is done as PM as soon as the pandemic recedes. Awful. The worst PM in my lifetime.

He's had Cameron and May to contend with too.

Cameron takes the prize for me. Utter coward.

 

[Blue 1]

Cameron and Johnson are both "born to rule" dilettantes who see the PMship as nothing but another feather in their cap and will see little to no consequence for anything they do in office. The damage they've done to this country between the pair of them is incalculable and history will not be kind to them.

May is a nonentity who only became PM by default.

 

[Haydn]

Johnson is a country mile ahead of Major Cameron and May, in being the most incompetent. The Tories have pinged back to being run by incompetent old Etonians, who are no longer fit to govern, they were never fit to govern but thats another debate.

I think where Johnson has excelled in his bid for the all time incompetent award and beaten all his predecessors into a cocked hat, is his strategy of surrounding himself with an equally incompetent team.

Now that takes some doing. The law of averages says you’ll get the odd half-wit in every team, but to achieve full village-idiot level incompetence throughout, is an astounding achievement.

 

[tsubaki]

Patel would be among the front runners. Picture that

not before my tea please