Current Affairs The next Tory (strong and stable) leader is Boris Johnson

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"The scientists advising ministers seemed to believe that this new virus could be treated much like influenza. Graham Medley, one of the government’s expert scientific advisers, was disarmingly explicit. In an interview on Newsnight last week, he explained the UK’s approach: to allow a controlled epidemic of large numbers of people, which would generate “herd immunity”. Our scientists recommended “a situation where the majority of the population are immune to the infection. And the only way of developing that, in the absence of a vaccine, is for the majority of the population to become infected.”
Medley suggested that, “ideally”, we might need “a nice big epidemic” among the less vulnerable. “What we are going to have to try and do,” he said, was to “manage this acquisition of herd immunity and minimise the exposure of people who are vulnerable.” Sir Patrick Vallance, the government’s chief scientific adviser, suggested that the target was to infect 60% of the UK’s population.


After weeks of inaction, the government announced a sudden U-turn on Monday, declaring that new modelling by scientists at Imperial College had convinced them to change their initial plans. Many journalists, led by the BBC, reported that “the science had changed” and so the government had responded accordingly. But this interpretation of events is wrong. The science has been the same since January. What changed is that government advisers at last understood what had really taken place in China.
Indeed, it didn’t need this week’s predictions by Imperial College scientists to estimate the impact of the government’s complacent approach. Any numerate school student could make the calculation. With a mortality of 1% among 60% of a population of some 66 million people, the UK could expect almost 400,000 deaths. The huge wave of critically ill patients that would result from this strategy would quickly overwhelm the NHS".

It's Johnson that needs to take in on the chin and resign.
These words are monstrous, and those that uttered them cant hide behind a pandemic to lessen their effect.

The originators and perpetrators of such a Darwinian approach need to be brought to justice when this is all over.
 
These words are monstrous, and those that uttered them cant hide behind a pandemic to lessen their effect.

The originators and perpetrators of such a Darwinian approach need to be brought to justice when this is all over.

They should be brought to justice now and thrown out of their positions, they're fakes and quacks. You only have to see how they've approached closing schools to see suck quackery. 'It's the safest place' to closure, unbelievable. Watching Sir Patrick Vallance explain why the change, was excruciating in the extreme. One of the 'experts' had symptoms but carried on going around, no doubt spreading it to all and sundry. Such cavalier attitudes are symptomatic of people who haven't grasped the enormity of this virus.
 
They should be brought to justice now and thrown out of their positions, they're fakes and quacks. You only have to see how they've approached closing schools to see suck quackery. 'It's the safest place' to closure, unbelievable. Watching Sir Patrick Vallance explain why the change, was excruciating in the extreme. One of the 'experts' had symptoms but carried on going around, no doubt spreading it to all and sundry. Such cavalier attitudes are symptomatic of people who haven't grasped the enormity of this virus.
The whole thing is worryingly ad hoc and the decision making is on the hoof.

How can we have ended up with such people at the helm?
How can we possibly allow them the room to carry on?

All sections of society have to demand an end to their ramshackle 'leadership' and a government of national unity formed committed to practical everyday solutions to the huge problems already created, and committed to throwing massive percentage of the GDP at resourcing a major fightback.
 
The experts in Singapore, SK, Germany etal are no smarter or more informed than British or American epideimologists.

Its just the Brit and American scientists didn't realize that when dealing w/ global pandemic the 1st order of business was to placate and ego-stroke the man-baby in charge to finally get him to listen to you. This is why you see democratic governors in the US changing their tune from "get your @#$% together Don" to constantly mentioning how they are "working hard w/ the administration and the adminstration is doing all they can in this crisis" or in the UK where the "science has changed"

make no mistake the experts are not in charge and have never been in charge, Boris and Donald have never been more powerful.
 
The whole thing is worryingly ad hoc and the decision making is on the hoof.

How can we have ended up with such people at the helm?
How can we possibly allow them the room to carry on?

All sections of society have to demand an end to their ramshackle 'leadership' and a government of national unity formed committed to practical everyday solutions to the huge problems already created, and committed to throwing massive percentage of the GDP at resourcing a major fightback.
The Country was literally groomed and gaslit for years, with millions convinced to use their vote against their best interests. We’ve ended up with a populist regime who are merely the front men for offshore billionaires and hedge funds who’s agenda is hiding in clear sight.

Johnson himself is being puppeteered by Cummings. A bloke who’s ‘expertise’ is largely limited to how to con people with the use of vacuous slogans and digital marketing. Make no mistake the ‘nudge’ group that sits behind the bumbling buffoon have been steering the strategy during this crisis, not the clinical experts. Behavioural ‘experts’ using untested and non peer reviewed models, that weren’t focused on medical science but societal and economic breakdown.
 
The whole thing is worryingly ad hoc and the decision making is on the hoof.
Johnson may have credibility had the budget slightly recognised the much highlighted crisis in social care, however, they did not. And it's those who require social care are at the front end of this crisis
 
The whole thing is worryingly ad hoc and the decision making is on the hoof.

How can we have ended up with such people at the helm?
How can we possibly allow them the room to carry on?

All sections of society have to demand an end to their ramshackle 'leadership' and a government of national unity formed committed to practical everyday solutions to the huge problems already created, and committed to throwing massive percentage of the GDP at resourcing a major fightback.

TBF I don't even think this needs a massive percentage of the GDP throwing at it.

The problem is the Government, specifically its current leadership - even his supporters do not especially rate his honesty or think he has close control of his language, so when you see him saying doom-laden things people are far less likely to believe him or take him seriously. This is made worse when you see the people around him (Raab in the early stages of this for instance, or his dad recently) clearly not doing what he is telling us to do, and then the cherry is placed on top by the usual suspects in the media blatantly spinning on his behalf which makes people not trust what they are saying either. He is saying one thing and making a huge amount of people think that they have to take action to protect their families themselves, which just leads to this stockpiling, rumours spreading and if unchecked will begin to break down society.

Change that, get someone preferably non-political at the top who people can trust (and who isn't concerned mainly with protecting his or her own hide) to run a genuine national government and things would get better, probably quite quickly. There is no reason why the list of candidates should be restricted to just MPs either.
 

A very bigly sweet moment not one the big orange one will be appreciating.

 
TBF I don't even think this needs a massive percentage of the GDP throwing at it.

The problem is the Government, specifically its current leadership - even his supporters do not especially rate his honesty or think he has close control of his language, so when you see him saying doom-laden things people are far less likely to believe him or take him seriously. This is made worse when you see the people around him (Raab in the early stages of this for instance, or his dad recently) clearly not doing what he is telling us to do, and then the cherry is placed on top by the usual suspects in the media blatantly spinning on his behalf which makes people not trust what they are saying either. He is saying one thing and making a huge amount of people think that they have to take action to protect their families themselves, which just leads to this stockpiling, rumours spreading and if unchecked will begin to break down society.

Change that, get someone preferably non-political at the top who people can trust (and who isn't concerned mainly with protecting his or her own hide) to run a genuine national government and things would get better, probably quite quickly. There is no reason why the list of candidates should be restricted to just MPs either.
We need a change of leadership. That is stunningly apparent. It's a matter of national survival.
 
The Country was literally groomed and gaslit for years, with millions convinced to use their vote against their best interests. We’ve ended up with a populist regime who are merely the front men for offshore billionaires and hedge funds who’s agenda is hiding in clear sight.

Johnson himself is being puppeteered by Cummings. A bloke who’s ‘expertise’ is largely limited to how to con people with the use of vacuous slogans and digital marketing. Make no mistake the ‘nudge’ group that sits behind the bumbling buffoon have been steering the strategy during this crisis, not the clinical experts. Behavioural ‘experts’ using untested and non peer reviewed models, that weren’t focused on medical science but societal and economic breakdown.

I completely agree. Right at the very moment we need responsible leaders with vision, we have people who - as you state - are not simply not up to it, but they have no interest in being up to it.
 
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