The "new handball law".

[JordanianEmbassy]

Don't mind the rule change so much - its not the end of the world.

Its var that is the problem.

 

[chrismpw]

The rules were sensible in the 'old days' the game became an international success and they didn't need changing. The only reason in my mind was that some nomark had something to put onto their cv.

Football simply isn't as good as it used to be whatever the media try to tell us.

 

[longers]

I stopped watching serie A highlights because of this change to the handball rule. You'd have a 2-2 game where all 4 goals were penalties from handball. Just no fun anymore. Immobile and Ronaldo scored like 13 pens each, Lukaku like 11. It's ridiculous. What people are saying about how players will just kick it against hands is true, its what serie A started doing.

that’s more fun than a 0-0 draw...

 

[DOMNOLAN]

that’s more fun than a 0-0 draw...

Depends on your idea of fun. Would rather watch a 0-0 than a 2-2 where all the goals were essentially abominations to the game (for an entire season).

 

[4737carlin]

I think its ace

 

[number4.]

Don't mind the rule change so much - its not the end of the world.

Its var that is the problem.

Don't get your logic. VAR is apply the rule. The rule is the joke here, needs to be changed.

 

[Yarrgh]

Need to convert Pickford to play CB as he has no arms and therefore can never give away a handball in the box.

He wouldn't even do that if goalkeepers were stopped from handling the ball.

 

[Neiler]

The who,e thing is SSN constant needs to cause drama.

Give out for years for VAR, then moan for two years about VAR. Go mad when penalties aren’t given, go mad when penalties are given. All self generating guff.

“All we want is consistency” - zero sense of irony.

 

[JordanianEmbassy]

Don't get your logic. VAR is apply the rule. The rule is the joke here, needs to be changed.

Var applying any rule is a problem, because var is utter tripe

The rule might not be ideal - but in every case so far it is var intervening that has turned it into a farce. If the referee saw the ball hit a hand and gave a penalty it might be deemed as very harsh but it wouldn't be as bad as the circus we've had with var over the last few days.

 

[Tigger]

All intentional handballs and unintentional that you gain an advantage from should be pens imo. Unintentional that lead to no advantage, no pen.
The one we got against Palace was clearly unintentional, but it stopped the ball going to our player for a chance, had there been no attacker in there and it would have just gone to a Palace player, no pen.

 

[degsy]

Laws of the game 2020/21.

As i've seen and heard about a million times this season from pundits and fans, all these penalties are fouls under the new handball laws.

But if you actually look at the new laws for this season there's nothing there that clearly states any of these decisions (apart from maybe Maupay yesterday) are fouls. It's typical from IFAB and the PGMOL, IFAB use language that can be ambiguous and aren't clear, and the PGMOL do whatever they feel like doing.

These penalties could easily have been given under last years laws, as they often were, i'm sure we all can recall debates over handballs in previous seasons.
The main points in the new law are :

1. deliberately touches the ball with their hand/arm, including moving the hand/arm towards the ball
2. touches the ball with their hand/arm when: • the hand/arm has made their body unnaturally bigger • the hand/arm is above/beyond their shoulder level (unless the player deliberately plays the ball which then touches their hand/arm)

There may well be some directive or guidance given to refs this season that might explain how they interpret those laws above, or possibly after 1 was given earlier in the season they've decided to be consistent, even if it's consistently wrong.

But it seems clear that they are deeming any movement of the arm towards the ball a foul, even if its part of normal playing movement (you know, jumping, running, turning, even out for balance), and that "unnaturally bigger" is any time the arm is not right next to the body, even though if you take a snapshot of any game of football you will see players with their arms in all kinds of positions away from their body, playing with your arms behind the body is more unnatural than the position of Wards yesterday.

So basically to me it's not the new laws that are the issue but the referees making their own definition of them, something they could have done any season.

PGMOL do what the PL tell them to do
#paypipercalltune
Its all about the interpretation they're told to implement...'K knows why they decided on this interpretation though

 

[paultheblue]

The who,e thing is SSN constant needs to cause drama.

Give out for years for VAR, then moan for two years about VAR. Go mad when penalties aren’t given, go mad when penalties are given. All self generating guff.

“All we want is consistency” - zero sense of irony.

Nail on the head mate, The match going fan hasn't asked or been asked if they want VAR if they done a survey now I confidentially predict 80% plus would prefer the referee and his assistants to make the decisions.
Sky sports have ruined what use to be the working man/womans game.

 

[brigadier]

Has all the pundits forgotten liverpool's penalties in the first match , they dont care how bias they look anymore.

 

[Lapeno77]

Anything that removes the 'interpretation' of these referees is for the better. Of course we know what will happen on October 17th but, thats the way it goes.

 

[R.Reddington]

Has all the pundits forgotten liverpool's penalties in the first match , they dont care how bias they look anymore.

exactly