Boris is the next Tory leader Bruce, not Nigel he will just pave the way for wet MPs had no bottle.... Vote overwhelmingly by 500 to sign article 50 then backtrack... they will all pay the price......
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I agree with you , but you cannot deny history, but it has to be used in the right context nothing to do with Brexit.....
As for citizen stripping that should apply to English born people who joined ISIS, but that's another topic.....
I never thought that "V for Vendetta" could be a predictive text of how things could get in this country, but it's looking less like a graphic novel and more like a terrifying glimpse into the future with every day
It was uphill when I was a teenager at the technical college on my motorbike.......coming out of lessons at 8 15pm on a winter's night - yes it was so easy in those days.......... with 10 miles to travel......
I expected the backlash when a PM stated that we were leaving the EU on the 29th of March this year and their would be no MEP elections over 100 times at the dispatch box in the HOC........
Joey
Hate to provide facts but we DO NOT trade in one block. We trade all over the world. We simply have to adhere to any deals negotiated by the block (which has a lot more economic clout than the UK alone)
Secondly our last estimated Net contribution to the EU is only £9 billion. How much do you think we will lose in tax revenues if we decrease trading levels and lose jobs via our exit?
Thirdly, we would HOPE to do deals that bring our trading levels back...do you trust Donald Trump?
Finally, the 'short term disruption' to trading even the most ardent Brexiters admit to requires some translation. It means a reduction in markets and profits. That translates into fewer jobs, that translates into you, me, other people potentially not being able to pay the mortgage/rent, feed the kids, be forced to claim benefits from an already in-deficit state. I can't see one benefit for ordinary people and nobody has yet been able to describe one.
I dont much care for Corbyn - I'm sick of him sitting on the fence for so long. If you dig deep enough he wants to leave the EU, but he doesn't want to be the one that leads the country out. He's happy enough to sit back and watch May and the tories make a complete mess of it all and destroy themselves in the process.
Then he wants a GE where he believes (foolishly) he has a chance to get into power due to the complete shambles that the tories will be in at that stage - ripping each other to pieces.
So the upshot is, he has appeared to flip and flop all over the shop but in reality he's playing his own game - it's just unfortunate for him that his game is as doomed to failure as the tories.
Whatever the outcome the Brexit party and Farage are not the answer. I understand the angry brexiteers will vote for him at the Euro's as payback for the tory mess, but what's the endgame here? I don't know where this country is heading now.
Exactly would you let a an another, buy stuff for you, then pay them vast commision?...........
No you would cut the middle man out and buy direct.......
and negotiate a better bargain.......
What????? Good luck with it all mate. Anyway here is to a great season ahead for the blues
Brexit mess is a 'crushing disaster' for UK business, says CBI chief
Carolyn Fairbairn urges MPs to resolve the gridlock as investor confidence plummets
I was talking to some people from JLR and BT this week Joe, and both said Brexit was an unmitigated disaster, just as the head of the CBI says in the article above. Given the apparent riches that will be available from 'trading with the world', why do you think so many businesses think Brexit is an awful idea?
CBI Bruce they would not be biased as they get a monortorium from the EU don't they?....Brexit mess is a 'crushing disaster' for UK business, says CBI chief
Carolyn Fairbairn urges MPs to resolve the gridlock as investor confidence plummetswww.theguardian.com
I was talking to some people from JLR and BT this week Joe, and both said Brexit was an unmitigated disaster, just as the head of the CBI says in the article above. Given the apparent riches that will be available from 'trading with the world', why do you think so many businesses think Brexit is an awful idea?
oh yes they do -
Revealed: the CBI receives millions from the EU and public bodies
November 03, 2015
New research by Vote Leave reveals that the Confederation of British Industry (CBI) received nearly £1 million from the European Commission between 2009 and 2015 – and that the EU is the CBI’s single largest source of public sector funds, which total more than £7 million.
The research – based on hundreds of Freedom of Information Act requests – reveals that:
▪ Between 2009 and 2015, the CBI received £955,484 from the European Commission. This equates to 12% of the CBI’s retained income in the same period.
▪ 95 public bodies were members of the CBI during the period 2009–15, providing the CBI with £5,172,204 in membership fees from the public sector rather than industry.
▪ Since 2009, the CBI has received £7,031,797 from 140 taxpayer-funded public sector bodies in membership fees, conference fees or other payments. This raises serious questions about how far the CBI is truly the ‘voice of business’.
▪ If the CBI continues with its plans to campaign for the UK to remain in the EU, many of these public institutions will have to resign from the CBI.
Commenting, Rob Oxley said:
‘The CBI is funded by the EU, so it is no surprise that it wants to campaign for the UK to stay in the EU regardless of whether there is any reform or not.
‘The CBI leadership has consistently got it wrong on the EU, from its disastrous campaign for us to join the euro to its undermining of the case for an EU referendum.
‘The CBI leadership wants to stay in the EU at all costs, yet with so much public sector and European Commission funding it is deeply compromised. We think its public sector members should resign if the CBI decides to campaign for the UK to stay in the EU.’
There is talk of the Conservatives merging wakey wakey....... If the Brexit party members draw from their voters......
The thing is Pete, I'm not sure that everyone does.
Many are so focussed on the vote that they aren't thinking towards the future.
Questions like:
'what do we protect in our trade negotiations' 'what sectors are we going to prioritise?'
'what commodities can the UK offer up to the rest of the world?'
Not even in discussion.
peteblue
Welcome back Wayne
The Brexit party will destroy the conservatives, and as a normal conservative voter I welcome it. I don’t want to see Labour under Corbyn get anywhere near the levers of power, nor indeed the jump on any passing bandwagon Liberals. But perhaps it’s time for the current self absorbed incumbents to be shaken up and replaced. Perhaps then we will not be lied to in the future and Democracy will be strengthened.....
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