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[neil999]

I've a funny feeling that this may be a turning point for the party.

The Tories are going to balls up Brexit completely, and I can't see May surviving a vote against anything she throws in-front of the country.

Keir starmer at least speaks well on this

 

[dandydan]

Have you seen the other ukip members?

Yup. Not much to choose from, i wanted Raheem Kassam as leader to see lefties heads falling off.

 

[JonS]

Well if they do, at least we will have done so without being told what to do by the EU. Excellent.

I'd rather us balls things up ourselves than balls things up with EU interference

 

[bluecol]

My father, a lifelong Labour supporter will be looking down from above with tears in his eyes.

 

[tsubaki]

Keir starmer at least speaks well on this

Of all the possible replacements for leader he would be the least bad, though its hard to ignore the blatant way he was parachuted in to what must be one of the safest seats in the country.

 

[bluecol]

Keir starmer at least speaks well on this

Funny feeling is right. Also right is that Labour will be wiped out at the next General Election bringing in another 20 years of Conservative government.

 

[neil999]

Funny feeling is right. Also right is that Labour will be wiped out at the next General Election bringing in another 20 years of Conservative government.

Possibly, things change V quickly in politics tho

 

[edge]

Of all the possible replacements for leader he would be the least bad, though its hard to ignore the blatant way he was parachuted in to what must be one of the safest seats in the country.

find I don't mind what he actually says but lacks a bit of passion putting it across, suppose he could learn how to come across better as he is a bit boring at the minute.

 

[neil999]

find I don't mind what he actually says but lacks a bit of passion putting it across, suppose he could learn how to come across better as he is a bit boring at the minute.

yeah the more i see of him the less sure i am of him being leader, he isnt charismatic or forceful enough unfortunately...

 

[edge]

yeah the more i see of him the less sure i am of him being leader, he isnt charismatic or forceful enough unfortunately...

Agree with you there , unfortunately can't think of anyone of the current shadow cabinet who fits the bill for leadership material including the current leader.

 

[tsubaki]

yeah the more i see of him the less sure i am of him being leader, he isnt charismatic or forceful enough unfortunately...

He has the rare advantage of actually having done something outside of politics though.

Compared to the other "big beasts" of the PLP, whose non-political achievements combined could probably fill one side of A4 (if you used a medium to large font size), he is a standout. He also has had the guts to stand and fight when they all flounced off to the backbenches, bitched to the Guardian and organized rebellions incompetently.

I don't think he would turn it around, but he would be better than any of them (who lets not forget only have "electability" going for them, and that is after being smashed by Corbyn twice, and by the electorate three times*).

* if you count Brexit in addition to the last two General Elections

 

[peteblue]

Of all the possible replacements for leader he would be the least bad, though its hard to ignore the blatant way he was parachuted in to what must be one of the safest seats in the country.

Another Labour 11plus Grammar School member. I wonder if he too believes in pulling up the ladder after him.....

 

[Number_25]

Another Labour 11plus Grammar School member. I wonder if he too believes in pulling up the ladder after him.....

"The paper finds no evidence for the superiority of either grammar schools nor selective systems of educational provision; indeed any advantages appear to lie with those schools and systems organised on non-selective lines."

Jesson, D., 2000. The comparative evaluation of GCSE value-added performance by type of school and LEA (No. 00/52).

Grammar schools don't work. End of.

 

[JonS]

"The paper finds no evidence for the superiority of either grammar schools nor selective systems of educational provision; indeed any advantages appear to lie with those schools and systems organised on non-selective lines."

Jesson, D., 2000. The comparative evaluation of GCSE value-added performance by type of school and LEA (No. 00/52).

Grammar schools don't work. End of.

I'd say they work for those that go to them. Not sure what they do for those that don't though....

 

[peteblue]

"The paper finds no evidence for the superiority of either grammar schools nor selective systems of educational provision; indeed any advantages appear to lie with those schools and systems organised on non-selective lines."

Jesson, D., 2000. The comparative evaluation of GCSE value-added performance by type of school and LEA (No. 00/52).

Grammar schools don't work. End of.

They did for those who passed the 11 plus......