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They have been suspended from the party.
But they did keep out the SNP.
Perhaps an alliance with the SNP would have been more natural.
I have been wondering if a progressive alliance: Labour, SNP, Liberal, Green, SDLP, Plaid - could work to keep the Tories out come the election.
Better half a loaf than no loaf at all....
 
But they did keep out the SNP.
Perhaps an alliance with the SNP would have been more natural.
I have been wondering if a progressive alliance: Labour, SNP, Liberal, Green, SDLP, Plaid - could work to keep the Tories out come the election.
Better half a loaf than no loaf at all....
I wasn't offering an option on it to be honest, on a local level of its in there constiuants best interest I don't see it's a problem who they join up with towards that aim, rather than pandering to political dogma.
Labour. knocked the other parties back when approached on some sort of alliance to keep the Tories out, might turn into a bad move election night suppose we will see soon enough.
 
Fair enough Danny, I will be voting Labour, as usual, but can't see Jeremy as the next PM.
how so, Jeremy at least is prepared to listen to people's stories and try and make a useful change whereas the tory government just want to make the rich even richer and the poor even poorer and have a massive social and economic divide in the uk, they don't care about the people they only care about themselves and will get what they want without any afterthought about the potential consequences.
 
how so, Jeremy at least is prepared to listen to people's stories and try and make a useful change whereas the tory government just want to make the rich even richer and the poor even poorer and have a massive social and economic divide in the uk, they don't care about the people they only care about themselves and will get what they want without any afterthought about the potential consequences.

If that is even a little bit true, then why would anyone ever vote for them?

That sort of rhetoric just turns off folk like me, the wide spread, "not that arsed" voter, from supporting a party that seems, to this observer anyrate, promoting a false story.

Me and Mrs R both work, and cos of the lowering of the tax bands over the last few years, neither of us will pay any tax this year. Me cos I am self employed, effectively able to control my income and can legally off set all sorts, and her cos she is part time. A few years ago we would both have copped a bill.

I am not saying that I am a dyed in the wool Tory, far from it, but the absolute bubbles that gets posted about them on here is frankly bizarre. In my experience anyrate.
 
If that is even a little bit true, then why would anyone ever vote for them?

That sort of rhetoric just turns off folk like me, the wide spread, "not that arsed" voter, from supporting a party that seems, to this observer anyrate, promoting a false story.

Me and Mrs R both work, and cos of the lowering of the tax bands over the last few years, neither of us will pay any tax this year. Me cos I am self employed, effectively able to control my income and can legally off set all sorts, and her cos she is part time. A few years ago we would both have copped a bill.

I am not saying that I am a dyed in the wool Tory, far from it, but the absolute bubbles that gets posted about them on here is frankly bizarre. In my experience anyrate.
I can see your point Roydo in so far as my take home pay is the highest it's ever been.

Having said that, both my sons' education looks likely to be ruined by Tory policy, my eldest has to wait until September to be seen by a hearing specialist at Alder Hey due to staff and funding shortages, the local riff raff are openly shooting and killing each other with the police struggling to cope, my wages are being outstripped by rises in inflation...

I could go on and on but all of a sudden that extra take home pay doesn't seem to be getting me and my family very far.
 
If that is even a little bit true, then why would anyone ever vote for them?

That sort of rhetoric just turns off folk like me, the wide spread, "not that arsed" voter, from supporting a party that seems, to this observer anyrate, promoting a false story.

Me and Mrs R both work, and cos of the lowering of the tax bands over the last few years, neither of us will pay any tax this year. Me cos I am self employed, effectively able to control my income and can legally off set all sorts, and her cos she is part time. A few years ago we would both have copped a bill.

I am not saying that I am a dyed in the wool Tory, far from it, but the absolute bubbles that gets posted about them on here is frankly bizarre. In my experience anyrate.
No offence mate but just saying that you are generally ok with the Tory stuff because you get a little extra in take home pay is imo very insular and not looking at the problems a lot of the country has with things like housing, bedroom tax, zero hour contracts, less police, etc etc etc

But yeah I am ok because I have a bit extra pay. Sorry with respect that's not the view of someone who looks at the wider society.
 
I can see your point Roydo in so far as my take home pay is the highest it's ever been.

Having said that, both my sons' education looks likely to be ruined by Tory policy, my eldest has to wait until September to be seen by a hearing specialist at Alder Hey due to staff and funding shortages, the local riff raff are openly shooting and killing each other with the police struggling to cope, my wages are being outstripped by rises in inflation...

I could go on and on but all of a sudden that extra take home pay doesn't seem to be getting me and my family very far.

Its a strange one.

My youngest, 21, has just finished 3 years at a special needs college, (Star College, Cheltenham, google it). £300,000 all in. We have now secured a room in a supported house, with 24/7 on site support, travel to a job sorted, Christ knows what the cost, (for life), near us.

My ex father in law was taken poorly the other week. Heart bypass op over a weekend with a full home support programme in place.

Maybe I am lucky. Dunno.
 
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