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[edge]

Great to see Lisa Nandy speaking out so well today, re the current Covid crisis in India.

I wish she had been elected leader rather than the current none entity.

Agree said it at the time as well

 

[dannyboy]

Great to see Lisa Nandy speaking out so well today, re the current Covid crisis in India.

I wish she had been elected leader rather than the current none entity.

I'm guessing she spoke better than when she said we should look to Catalonia to defeat Scottish nationalism.

 

[roydo]

Agree said it at the time as well

I did like her line about being the only shadow foreign secretary to never have left Wigan.

 

[davek]

 

[roydo]

Blimey. Thats actual Hartlepool, not Hartlepool On Thames?

And that Reform UK bloke. Its not THE John Prescott I assume.

 

[davek]

Blimey. Thats actual Hartlepool, not Hartlepool On Thames?

And that Reform UK bloke. Its not THE John Prescott I assume.

Worse still for Starmer:

 

[roydo]

Worse still for Starmer:

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You are better placed than me to analyse that, but there must be a huge element of covid/lockdown/vax bias in those figures. Impossible to prove either way I guess.

 

[arminisgod]

You are better placed than me to analyse that, but there must be a huge element of covid/lockdown/vax bias in those figures. Impossible to prove either way I guess.

Just goes to show this forum doesn't represent public mood.

 

[roydo]

Just goes to show this forum doesn't represent public mood.

lol Hope not!

I meant that @davek in his day job teaches or lectures or researches politics. I have a passing interest.

 

[davek]

You are better placed than me to analyse that, but there must be a huge element of covid/lockdown/vax bias in those figures. Impossible to prove either way I guess.

The LP candidate has suffered because a lot of votes that went to The Brexit Party last election are switching Tory now.

The Starmer deficit is less easy to explain away.

He's false. People know it.

 

[peteblue]

Does Starmer even know where Hartlepool is ?.......

 

[ToffeeTim]

Worse still for Starmer:

Hartlepool stayed Labour in 2019 so I'm not sure I would believe that poll entirely. Yeah the tories will probably win, but by 17 points? Nah can't see it.

Turnout is always way down in by elections as well so polling is probably a lot harder.

These elections this week will be interesting though. The tories are gaining in some areas in the north for the first time in decades, but Labour might start making gains in the south in traditional tory areas. It feels like politics is changing a bit in the UK.

 

[davek]

Hartlepool stayed Labour in 2019 so I'm not sure I would believe that poll entirely. Yeah the tories will probably win, but by 17 points? Nah can't see it.

Turnout is always way down in by elections as well so polling is probably a lot harder.

These elections this week will be interesting though. The tories are gaining in some areas in the north for the first time in decades, but Labour might start making gains in the south in traditional tory areas. It feels like politics is changing a bit in the UK.

Starmer is in big trouble if there is that scale of loss.

His strategy since becoming leader has been to move rightwards and engage with Brexit voting Britain and present himself as more patriotic than the Tories.

A loss in Hartlepool and a poor showing in the local elections needs to be met with a change of direction. If he carries on and fails to change he's done for.

 

[NorthernBlue]

The LP candidate has suffered because a lot of votes that went to The Brexit Party last election are switching Tory now.

The Starmer deficit is less easy to explain away.

He's false. People know it.

There’s another seat in Teesside that Labour hold (Stockton north) and if that was up for grabs this week they would comfortably lose it.

 

[roydo]

Starmer is in big trouble if there is that scale of loss.

His strategy since becoming leader has been to move rightwards and engage with Brexit voting Britain and present himself as more patriotic than the Tories.

A loss in Hartlepool and a poor showing in the local elections needs to be met with a change of direction. If he carries on and fails to change he's done for.

You called it spot on a few weeks into his tenure. Hologram nails it.

Shame really, but perhaps post covid/pandemic real politics returning might be his salvation.