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It's interesting to note btw that there is no Queen's Speech planned for this parliament due to the lack of domestic policies to announce. Brexit has consumed pretty much all government attention, which underlines the barminess of the Labour manifesto that pledged to nationalise vast numbers of industries, reshape the economy AND do Brexit at the same time. It's idealism that really hasn't been thought through.
 
It's interesting to note btw that there is no Queen's Speech planned for this parliament due to the lack of domestic policies to announce. Brexit has consumed pretty much all government attention, which underlines the barminess of the Labour manifesto that pledged to nationalise vast numbers of industries, reshape the economy AND do Brexit at the same time. It's idealism that really hasn't been thought through.

Safe to say Labour worry me. If they go for the quick and easy deal with the EU it is possible to get it done and then move onto their never-ending list of wishes but you get the feeling that everything will be done with minimal research and hurriedly implemented therefore open to abuse/problems. I'm also not overly keen in having a prime minister who puts is own agenda to the fore above the national interest, he goes on about no anti-Semitism and then in the same speach says the first thing he will do will be to recognise Palestine. Would it not be better to say he will help with the talks to progress a two state solution? Seeing Israel haven't signed off on it you are going to pee off them and America. (hello, aren't we going to have to do a trade deal with them shortly afterwards??)

To me he is just the anti-Trump version of Trump, shoot first consequences later.
 
It's interesting to note btw that there is no Queen's Speech planned for this parliament due to the lack of domestic policies to announce. Brexit has consumed pretty much all government attention, which underlines the barminess of the Labour manifesto that pledged to nationalise vast numbers of industries, reshape the economy AND do Brexit at the same time. It's idealism that really hasn't been thought through.

Since when did Labour get elected to implement its manifesto pledges? The Queen's speech is for the elected government to put forward not the opposition. Don't think this has been thought through, do you?
 
Safe to say Labour worry me. If they go for the quick and easy deal with the EU it is possible to get it done and then move onto their never-ending list of wishes but you get the feeling that everything will be done with minimal research and hurriedly implemented therefore open to abuse/problems. I'm also not overly keen in having a prime minister who puts is own agenda to the fore above the national interest, he goes on about no anti-Semitism and then in the same speach says the first thing he will do will be to recognise Palestine. Would it not be better to say he will help with the talks to progress a two state solution? Seeing Israel haven't signed off on it you are going to pee off them and America. (hello, aren't we going to have to do a trade deal with them shortly afterwards??)

To me he is just the anti-Trump version of Trump, shoot first consequences later.

Indeed, adding solving the middle east situation with rebuilding the entire UK economy, nationalising several industries, doing Brexit (and potentially any Irish implications of that) and whatever else is in their manifesto seems utterly bonkers to me. For any other government doing one of those things well would be a good outcome from a parliamentary term. It's hard to shake the sense that it's all a bit student debating society stuff that is dead easy to make sound good in theory, but doing it is rather harder. I'm not even sure that Corbyn is that interested in the dull, nitty gritty stuff as opposed to stump speeches to adoring masses.
 
So you think Labour would have done everything in their manifesto AND Brexit had they been elected?

Labour didn't get elected so didn't have to deal with its manifesto pledges and Brexit. Brexit could have been done and dusted ages ago. It wasn't. Because the Tories wanted to wave the union jack for political advantage, and believed the Blairites and the political commentators that Corbyn would get smashed. Result, relying on the DUP. Special status would have been the first thing they did so the border wouldn't have been an issue.

The Tories have made their bed and will have to lay in it.

Labour will draw up its manifesto at the next election, November maybe. And I'm absolutely sure they will be put through the wringer and if November will have to pick up the pieces, left by this incompetent lot.
 
Who is this Abou Jahjah?

Why? He's a Lebanese, who lives in Belgium. And in all fairness quite a horrible character, even though lately he's somewhat mellowed his discourse.

I still remember such tropes as: admitting that he got residency status in Belgium by a fake marriage (illegal); he wrote a piece after 9/11 that for most Arabs this is can't be a day of joy, but of revenge. He also expressed his support for Western troops in Iraq since every dead American, British or Dutch soldier is a victory. After the attack on the Jewish museum in Brussels, he called Bart de Wever: "a man who performs fellatio on Zionists" (think this is the swear filter friendly description) because he wanted to increase the security for Jewish buildings/institutions. With his movement (AEL) he also created a series of cartoons; one of them being Hitler raping Anne Frank. There's a whole lot more, but I think you can see the trend.

Still they occasionally let him contribute in the public debate but he always messes us. Like lately his column in De Standaard got cancelled since he expressed his support for the Jerusalem 8/01/2017 attack on Facebook.
 
Why? He's a Lebanese, who lives in Belgium. And in all fairness quite a horrible character, even though lately he's somewhat mellowed his discourse.

I still remember such tropes as: admitting that he got residency status in Belgium by a fake marriage (illegal); he wrote a piece after 9/11 that for most Arabs this is can't be a day of joy, but of revenge. He also expressed his support for Western troops in Iraq since every dead American, British or Dutch soldier is a victory. After the attack on the Jewish museum in Brussels, he called Bart de Wever: "a man who performs fellatio on Zionists" (think this is the swear filter friendly description) because he wanted to increase the security for Jewish buildings/institutions. With his movement (AEL) he also created a series of cartoons; one of them being Hitler raping Anne Frank. There's a whole lot more, but I think you can see the trend.

Still they occasionally let him contribute in the public debate but he always messes us. Like lately his column in De Standaard got cancelled since he expressed his support for the Jerusalem 8/01/2017 attack on Facebook.
havent seen it me self but he supposedly has said that "Gay people are aids spreading fa*****"...not sure why Corbyn is assosiated with him
 
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