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[davek]

They are "supporting" this 1%?

Holy cow. And there's me thinking the Tories have been plain daft not taking the chance to give them a decent rise.

Supporting a 2% rise.

 

[ForeverBlue92]

Sir Keir has enough on his plate battling tooth and nail against the Tories without the Far Left attacking him at every opportunity.

Stop pining for the return of Saint Jeremy blokes the worst Labour Leader in history.

Move on.

 

[roydo]

Supporting a 2% rise.

Hardly eye catching is it?

I just think the money should be found for sommet decent. Say 5%, inflation busting and all that stuff, a true recognition of their work, and the whole of the UK would be absolutely fine with it.

Tories totally missed a goal here, cos whatever Starmer says, he cant do anything, ergo, not make any real political capital out of it.

 

[davek]

Hardly eye catching is it?

I just think the money should be found for sommet decent. Say 5%, inflation busting and all that stuff, a true recognition of their work, and the whole of the UK would be absolutely fine with it.

Tories totally missed a goal here, cos whatever Starmer says, he cant do anything, ergo, not make any real political capital out of it.

Starmer is such a busted flush. Easiest thing in the world would have been to have linked corporation tax with pay increases for front line public sector workers.

Itls a slam dunk for any Labour leader there's ever been.

Not "clever" Mr Starmer though.

Forensic we were promised.

 

[roydo]

Starmer is such a busted flush. Easiest thing in the world would have been to have linked corporation tax with pay increases for front line public sector workers.

Itls a slam dunk for any Labour leader there's ever been.

Not "clever" Mr Starmer though.

Forensic we were promised.

I made my suggestion months ago about how the whole Covid spending should be dealt with, and a decent pay rise, cost wise, could easily be lumped in with the rest of it.

Just ring fence the lot, take it off the Govt year to year books, so no future Government is hamstrung by it, and pay it/interest off over 60 years. Did similar after WW2.

You got Starmers phone number?

 

[davek]

I made my suggestion months ago about how the whole Covid spending should be dealt with, and a decent pay rise, cost wise, could easily be lumped in with the rest of it.

Just ring fence the lot, take it off the Govt year to year books, so no future Government is hamstrung by it, and pay it/interest off over 60 years. Did similar after WW2.

You got Starmers phone number?

Right now: record low cost of borrowing.

 

[roydo]

Right now: record low cost of borrowing.

The cost of borrowing isnt really the point, like they had to borrow the money come what may. We have been fortunate, thats it.

But it isnt right, nor fair, to have a lead weight of Covid borrowing on future Government balance sheets that would impact on actual spending/borrowing requirements maybe 25 years from now.

The folk who lend/buy the gilts arent arsed. They will get their coupon, and final redemption either way. But soz, this is the LP thread, and we have seemed to have strayed a bit. My idea aint exactly a vote winner!

 

[peteblue]

Supporting a 2% rise.

So someone on £30,000 will get a £6 per week rise. Or they could all go on strike to double it to £12 per week. So go on strike for less than £1 per day......yeah that’s what we need right now......

 

[davek]

So someone on £30,000 will get a £6 per week rise. Or they could all go on strike to double it to £12 per week. So go on strike for less than £1 per day......yeah that’s what we need right now......

£600 per year rise - though not enough - is better than a kick in the bollocks off the Tories.

 

[tsubaki]

I disagree. The cash is there. They can give the nurses and other public sector workers on the front line fight against this virus the increases they deserve. That is political gold for any political party willing to push ALL THE WAY including strike action on behalf of the acknowledged heroes of the crisis. Starmer just doesn't have ANY political instinct at all. That is the issue here. He thinks selling the LP as the Tory Party MkII is going to win an election. It wont.

It isn't there though, and this isn't the extent of mistreatment that this government is going to do to the NHS.

I think its daft how Starmer is responding to almost every issue, but this is clearly an elephant trap set for him (and the unions) - to get set up for strikes demanding 12.5% that are called right when most of the working population in the country find out they're getting pay cuts / sacked etc. He is right not to walk blindly into it.

The way to beat this government is very narrow - thanks to its control of most of the Press - but it is there, just remind people at every opportunity that the people running the government are only out for themselves and their mates. Its abundantly true and everyone can understand it.

 

[davek]

It isn't there though, and this isn't the extent of mistreatment that this government is going to do to the NHS.

I think its daft how Starmer is responding to almost every issue, but this is clearly an elephant trap set for him (and the unions) - to get set up for strikes demanding 12.5% that are called right when most of the working population in the country find out they're getting pay cuts / sacked etc. He is right not to walk blindly into it.

The way to beat this government is very narrow - thanks to its control of most of the Press - but it is there, just remind people at every opportunity that the people running the government are only out for themselves and their mates. Its abundantly true and everyone can understand it.

But now they (Starmer's LP) have agreed to abide by arbitration by an *independent* review body, so they always were going to have an out-clause.

They chose to posture on this rather than to back something with principle...see other examples of this nature - like abstaining on Spy Cops legislation.

 

[Spadge Vernacular]

But now they (Starmer's LP) have agreed to abide by arbitration by an *independent* review body, so they always were going to have an out-clause.

They chose to posture on this rather than to back something with principle...see other examples of this nature - like abstaining on Spy Cops legislation.

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[peteblue]

We could make a start by stopping all politicians ripping us off.....

 

[tsubaki]

We could make a start by stopping all politicians ripping us off.....

It would be better to stop the Carol Malones of the world first - Lammy’s “expenses” claims are overwhelmingly staff and office costs (for 2019 it was £177000 on staff and £11000 on office rents etc) - his actual expenses were just over a grand.

All of this is freely available though, which you’d think someone whose impersonated a journalist as long as Malone has would know.

 

[peteblue]

It would be better to stop the Carol Malones of the world first - Lammy’s “expenses” claims are overwhelmingly staff and office costs (for 2019 it was £177000 on staff and £11000 on office rents etc) - his actual expenses were just over a grand.

All of this is freely available though, which you’d think someone whose impersonated a journalist as long as Malone has would know.

£177,000 pays for a few members of staff doesn’t it, what do they all do.....