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[davek]

Labour may as well split. The constant fighting between the left and centre acolytes consistently hamstrings the party.

Left and right.

And, yes: if Starmer isn't replaced by a candidate who can unite the party there will be a split.

 

[tsubaki]

Again, I don't fully understand how this could result in anything other than her and her team having to fork out for the action. The report was shared within the PLP and NEC, the legal protocols concerning data safety were upheld - it was a decision by one or more whistleblowers to release the report - not the party itself.

TBF you just have to look at who her lawyer is.

 

[Spadge Vernacular]

Left and right.

And, yes: if Starmer isn't replaced by a candidate who can unite the party there will be a split.

Centre, mate, centre. Though I get that if you live in the South Pole everything is north etc.

 

[peteblue]

Sir Keir getting a bit of a kicking over his budget remarks. Darlington is getting some 750 people from the treasury as part of the levelling up. I used to have a factory in Darlington many years ago and it’s a lovely area with really good people.....

 

[davek]

Sleeper.

 

[orchard]

 

[DanEFC92]

 

[davek]

Forensic.

 

[Khalekan]

Depressing times.

 

[dannyboy]

Starmer had an open goal for months but didn't want to put the ball in the back of the net because a few focus groups said people like it when politicians work together in times of crisis. And considering the grown ups are supposed to back in charge the sniping towards the left has been pitiful.

The amount Starmer won by last year showed how desperate the party was to heal but all progress in that direction has halted because it seems to be more important to alienate your core support than show a bit of humility and heal the rifts.

If Labour plod along like this into the next election and score under 30% then I can see a new opposition party having to be formed. Right now it's a wasteland of ideas with no sense of direction or purpose. A 1997 Blair tribute act is what we're being offered but no one is asking for it.

 

[edge]

We need a northerner. Jock, welsh, Irish anybody from outside that circle of failures around London.
Somebody with a bit of fire and passion in their belly.
This fella is so boring and passionless it is untrue, saying that in the coming years.
I can see the Boris show unravelling spectacularly at some point, so a boring b might be just the right man to take over.

 

[Aberblue]

We need a northerner. Jock, welsh, Irish anybody from outside that circle of failures around London.
Somebody with a bit of fire and passion in their belly.
This fella is so boring and passionless it is untrue, saying that in the coming years.
I can see the Boris show unravelling spectacularly at some point, so a boring b might be just the right man to take over.

How about Mark Drakeford? He seems to have grown in stature since the pandemic erupted; a year ago hardly anybody knew who he was but he seems to have done as good a job as anyone on Covid, apart from Sturgeon. He's also pretty boring at first sight.

He does give the impression of competence, even if he does resemble a Methodist minister.

 

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[coollino]

He'll back down next week

 

[tsubaki]

It is the wrong track to go down, that - the economic situation demands a pay freeze for everyone, and he’d be better to accept the idea of that (though there’s no need to actually support it) and instead go after the government to commit to not screwing over nurses / doctors / cops / firefighters / the military in terms of their pensions (which they are about to, at least in terms of the latter two groups).

People can’t (and don’t) usually get outraged by someone who isn’t themselves not getting a pay rise, but they are annoyed by unfairness and what this government has serially done with pensions (armed services ones especially) has been deeply unfair.