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[Number_25]

Define "Corbynism" Joe.....you would seriously betray your roots and vote for this car crash of a "government" ??? Unbelievable..

One of the greatest dressing downs I've ever seen were my great grandmother mauling into my sister for voting Plaid Cymru over Labour in a council election.

She was right though, the second we lose our sense of geniune working class solidarity - the second the vultures will sweep in and take everything we have.

 

[Carl O'Ancelotti]

It's a big gamble as there last manefesto stated Brexit would take place -40 percent of Labour voters voted Brexit I was not going for anyone in the GE as I think both leaders are useless - if it's Labour trying to reverse the referendum then I will vote Tory against my will.....
Maybe that will be the end of corbynism.......

But it won't be against your will if you vote for them, it will be because you want to, which makes you a closet Tory.

 

[roydo]

One of the greatest dressing downs I've ever seen were my great grandmother mauling into my sister for voting Plaid Cymru over Labour in a council election.

I would have been made up she had the gumption to make her own mind up.

 

[Number_25]

I would have been made up she had the gumption to make her own mind up.

I love my nan.

She was heavily involved in a lot of anti-racist stuff back at home, and was a proper salt-of-the-earth person. Wore her heart on the sleeve, and never told a lie.

Even had UKIP campaigners around for tea when she went a bit doo-lally in her latter days. Even then, she was a fierce debater - far better than anything I've ever seen. Could talk the chops off Kim Howells, which was no mean feat.

Vehemently anti-communist, which made Christmases fun once my arl man had a few and got on his soap box.

Got me involved in political campaigning.

Beautiful woman, god rest her soul.

 

[roydo]

I love my nan.

She was heavily involved in a lot of anti-racist stuff back at home, and was a proper salt-of-the-earth person. Wore her heart on the sleeve, and never told a lie.

Even had UKIP campaigners around for tea when she went a bit doo-lally in her latter days. Even then, she was a fierce debater - far better than anything I've ever seen. Could talk the chops off Kim Howells, which was no mean feat.

Vehemently anti-communist, which made Christmases fun once my arl man had a few and got on his soap box.

Got me involved in political campaigning.

Beautiful woman, god rest her soul.

We generally watched Morecombe and Wise at Christmas.

 

[Number_25]

We generally watched Morecombe and Wise at Christmas.

We're all a bit strange.

 

[Number_25]

I remember reading that Aspergers' Syndrome has been shown to be related to a lot of gene activity from GWAS data, although the same size was limited. Tempted to say that our family are prime example of freak syndrome.

 

[flibbyflob]

But 60% voted stay Joe. What about that?

All said, its a cocking mess.

Yeah but if even a quarter of the 40% decide not to vote Labour as they feel they have been shafted then they have no chance of winning the next election.

 

[Joey66]

But it won't be against your will if you vote for them, it will be because you want to, which makes you a closet Tory.

Corbyn will fetch out 40 percent of closet Tories.......

 

[peteblue]

No, it isn't.

The line is still (as per Corbyn...and in fact Starmer) that the 6 tests that the Brexit deal has to pass for the LP to get behind it is still the party line. If it fails to address that then they tell the Tories to get it back to the EU to make it work...they wont and that's when they'll collapse. That is the strategy and that is the line...it was this morning and it is right now.

As said: there is NOTHING when all is said and done that has changed in the LP line on Brexit.

Any chance of explaining how anyone can achieve all six while actually leaving the Eu....I particularly like number 2....

1. Does it ensure a strong and collaborative future relationship with the EU?
2. Does it deliver the “exact same benefits” as we currently have as members of the Single Market and Customs Union?
3. Does it ensure the fair management of migration in the interests of the economy and communities?
4. Does it defend rights and protections and prevent a race to the bottom?
5. Does it protect national security and our capacity to tackle cross-border crime?
6. Does it deliver for all regions and nations of the UK?

 

[The binman chronicles]

Yeah but if even a quarter of the 40% decide not to vote Labour as they feel they have been shafted then they have no chance of winning the next election.

There are bound to be remain voters on the Tory side that may decide to switch given the pigs ear they have made of it.

 

[peteblue]

There are bound to be remain voters on the Tory side that may decide to switch given the pigs ear they have made of it.

No mate. Even Tory Remainers will never vote for Corbyn and the certain destruction of the U.K. economy........

 

[flibbyflob]

There are bound to be remain voters on the Tory side that may decide to switch given the pigs ear they have made of it.

Can see them going Lib Dem rather than to Corbyn. If you didn't vote Corbyn last time what would make you vote him now?

 

[Joey66]

Any chance of explaining how anyone can achieve all six while actually leaving the Eu....I particularly like number 2....

1. Does it ensure a strong and collaborative future relationship with the EU?
2. Does it deliver the “exact same benefits” as we currently have as members of the Single Market and Customs Union?
3. Does it ensure the fair management of migration in the interests of the economy and communities?
4. Does it defend rights and protections and prevent a race to the bottom?
5. Does it protect national security and our capacity to tackle cross-border crime?
6. Does it deliver for all regions and nations of the UK?

Number 6 ain't bad as the UK government don't even do that in fact Labour MPs are still living in the Westminster bubble syndrome!
No 2 is impossible to leave the EU ......

 

[The binman chronicles]

No mate. Even Tory Remainers will never vote for Corbyn and the certain destruction of the U.K. economy........

Can see them going Lib Dem rather than to Corbyn. If you didn't vote Corbyn last time what would make you vote him now?

Yes of course they are more likely to not vote or switch to Lib Dems but still there is going to be a chunk on both sides that are disaffected and may help to cancel out losses.