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Then demand his resignation, you 'kin nose bleed.

Oh no, he wont do that. As 'Sir' Keir reiterates again:

"When I was elected leader of the Labour Party, I made a promise to the British people. That I would work constructively with the Government. Challenging them when I thought mistakes were being made, offering my support when that was the right thing to do. I stand by that promise. That is why I will work constructively with the Government to help us through the next phase of this pandemic."

63,000 people murdered and this tool cant even find the balls to demand a resignation of any of the perpetrators...instead he wants to work with them "constructively".

An utter ball bag.

He has been completely right not to say much so far. When the opposition are about to stick it in their own net you dont try and make a last ditch block.

Calling for a resignation is fine, but strategically it makes no difference at this point. The next election is possibly over 4 years away. That's an enormous amount of time in the current political environment. Starmer can afford to be measured and gradual in his approach.
 
I dunno Dave, I feel like he could be playing a smart game by not demanding Cummings quit or be sacked. Tories can't then accuse Labour of jumping on the dog pile in the time of crisis. Plus, Starmer's calls might only make them hold steadfast even more as they don't want to look like they're cowering to the opposition.

Though, I would like to see him get a bit more mouthy. If, somehow, these clowns in government figure it out and he doesn't do anything, he'll be accused of standing idly by.
He looks weak by constantly playing the collegiate card. This not the time for that. It's a crisis and you dont prop up your opponent in moments like that, you try and take them down. HanCOCK and/or Cummings should have gone already if the opposition was really pushing for it. Just look at the collapse in the government support.

Away from that issue, Starmer should be handing out a clear message to workers such as teachers to refuse to go back until their safety is assured.

There's not enough definition between Starmer's LP and this government.
 
He has been completely right not to say much so far. When the opposition are about to stick it in their own net you dont try and make a last ditch block.

Calling for a resignation is fine, but strategically it makes no difference at this point. The next election is possibly over 4 years away. That's an enormous amount of time in the current political environment. Starmer can afford to be measured and gradual in his approach.
The government are in meltdown; if Starmer cant hand them defeats under these circumstances then he may as well step down.
 
He looks weak by constantly playing the collegiate card. This not the time for that. It's a crisis and you dont prop up your opponent in moments like that, you try and take them down. HanCOCK and/or Cummings should have gone already if the opposition was really pushing for it. Just look at the collapse in the government support.

Away from that issue, Starmer should be handing out a clear message to workers such as teachers to refuse to go back until their safety is assured.

There's not enough definition between Starmer's LP and this government.

Through the lense of a very recent 80 seat majority and fixed term parliament.This Government is not going anywhere until it wants too, slow burn everything for the run into 2024... More people will suffer however, democracy dictates we own this, some more than others that's between them and conscience.
 
Through the lense of a very recent 80 seat majority and fixed term parliament.This Government is not going anywhere until it wants too, slow burn everything for the run into 2024... More people will suffer however, democracy dictates we own this, some more than others that's between them and conscience.

Labour need to take down a couple of high profile Tories now in order to make an inquiry stick.

They've had two golden opportunities with HanCOCK and Cummings; they were there waiting to be fired. Starmer though wants to show how 'responsible' he is.

He's not the man for the times we live in. His 'forensic' questioning will very soon be a source of weakness for him as more people realise how ineffectual it is against a hard nosed government who simply dont give a flying one about debate and details...and a country whose people couldn't give a flying one about them either.

Cap in hand gets kick in teeth.

Time for this stuffed shirt Starmer to find some courage and start swinging.
 
They are defeating themselves Dave, there’s no need to pile in as he was at PMQs

You do talk some crap don’t you. The Tories have done nothing to themselves, and Labour have done nothing to them either. The Cummings issue has gone and Starmer has become invisible. It comes to something when an advisor to the PM has a greater public profile than the Leader of the Opposition....but carry on kidding yourself.....
 
You do talk some crap don’t you. The Tories have done nothing to themselves, and Labour have done nothing to them either. The Cummings issue has gone and Starmer has become invisible. It comes to something when an advisor to the PM has a greater public profile than the Leader of the Opposition....but carry on kidding yourself.....
Pot...kettle...black.
 
You do talk some crap don’t you. The Tories have done nothing to themselves, and Labour have done nothing to them either. The Cummings issue has gone and Starmer has become invisible. It comes to something when an advisor to the PM has a greater public profile than the Leader of the Opposition....but carry on kidding yourself.....

this is why you need your own thread - to comment on the world you live in, where all that happened. the rest of us can then talk about what we've all experienced these past few weeks
 
this is why you need your own thread - to comment on the world you live in, where all that happened. the rest of us can then talk about what we've all experienced these past few weeks

All you have experienced is a man travelling to Durham, at which point you went apoplectic along the lines of ‘we’re doomed, doomed I tell you’, then of course when challenged you play the man and not the ball. That’s fair enough except you’re not the only one who can do it. So I think I’ll hang around in this thread and see how you get on....should be interesting to see how you attempt to turn an empty vessel like Starmer into the saviour of the world.....
 
All you have experienced is a man travelling to Durham, at which point you went apoplectic along the lines of ‘we’re doomed, doomed I tell you’, then of course when challenged you play the man and not the ball. That’s fair enough except you’re not the only one who can do it. So I think I’ll hang around in this thread and see how you get on....should be interesting to see how you attempt to turn an empty vessel like Starmer into the saviour of the world.....

You do know that this forum offers the opportunity for people to independently check what was written and when, right?
 
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