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[dholliday]

Are they a total luxury, at the expense of TV, PC, home landline for phone and Broadband many smart phones are cost effective way to be connected to modern Britain, from social use, banking, looking for work etc. Besides now house owning is out of the reach of many they are to be finger wagged for having a smart phone, one of the few things they can get a loan for and credit history....

Yes they are, especially when people are choosing expensive brands. Choice is a luxury. Choosing the new iphone over something much cheaper is a total luxury.

This is the kind of luxury working classes in the 70's, 80's & 90's didn't have. And how essential a smartphone really is is up for debate...people use it for nonsense, let's be honest. A home internet connection to be online, and a mobile phone to text & call, is all you really need even in this modern world.

 

[peteblue]

No they didn't. You didn't answer my question: how do you expect society to pay for all these longer pensions?

There's really only two responses:

1) increase pension age
2) increase immigration

as the alternative response none of us want: which is the government running out of money which crashes the economy, causes massive inflation and ends up decreasing life-expectancy due to medical industries also crashing.

Of course, but he will get a free £500 and that’s all he cares about, not where it comes from or who will suffer to pay for it....free £500......

 

[Number_25]

Of course, but he will get a free £500 and that’s all he cares about, not where it comes from or who will suffer to pay for it....free £500......

Me?

 

[dholliday]

People forget the 70's...there was a lot of real poverty back then, despite (or because of) a real Labour government.

Thatcher and the Tories get a lot of stick here, some of it deserved...but apart from the fantastic culture the 70's were a dark time for the working class. 2018 is massively luxurious in comparison.

 

[peteblue]

Me?

Not you mate. I appreciate your comments....

 

[Harryflashman]

People forget the 70's...there was a lot of real poverty back then, despite (or because of) a real Labour government.

Thatcher and the Tories get a lot of stick here, some of it deserved...but apart from the fantastic culture the 70's were a dark time for the working class.

Thatcher wanted and even urged the managed decline of my city , like many Scousers I’ve understandably got a fairly strong opinion on her .

 

[peteblue]

People forget the 70's...there was a lot of real poverty back then, despite (or because of) a real Labour government.

Thatcher and the Tories get a lot of stick here, some of it deserved...but apart from the fantastic culture the 70's were a dark time for the working class. 2018 is massively luxurious in comparison.

No you are wrong. We were all fed caviar with a silver spoon, were given large detached houses and loads of money for doing nothing while gaining exorbitant pensions on the backs of millenials.....

 

[Number_25]

Of course, but he will get a free £500 and that’s all he cares about, not where it comes from or who will suffer to pay for it....free £500......

I completely misread the quoted post as one of my own, apologies.

 

[peteblue]

Thatcher wanted and even urged the managed decline of my city , like many Scousers I’ve understandably got a fairly strong opinion on her .

Yeah, that’s why she appointed a cabinet minister, Michael Heseltine, to help......because she hated us......

 

[Harryflashman]

Yeah, that’s why she appointed a cabinet minister, Michael Heseltine, to help......because she hated us......

You obviously know what she and more specifically others said in the released cabinet documents ?

That Tory government wanted to keep resources from the city , I’m aware of what went on with Heseltine and I remember it well .

 

[Number_25]

People forget the 70's...there was a lot of real poverty back then, despite (or because of) a real Labour government.

Thatcher and the Tories get a lot of stick here, some of it deserved...but apart from the fantastic culture the 70's were a dark time for the working class. 2018 is massively luxurious in comparison.

I volunteer at a local foodbank, and last week we had a woman come in who collapsed because he hadn't eat in 3 days as she has 4 kids to look after and her husband (who was the main breadwinner) died after Christmas. She was using paper ripped from books to stem the blood from her periods as she couldn't afford sanitary products.

2018.

Massively luxurious.

 

[Number_25]

You realise that’s a really poor graph right? Some might say the particular scale has been used for full emotional effect. There's no disputing the CEO's get paid too much, but that sort of manipulation of data is just weird.

Sorry, I work in data science and I'm struggling to understand how this graph is "poor".

 

[zzr45]

Sorry, I work in data science and I'm struggling to understand how this graph is "poor".

You don’t get how using the scales you’ve used are poor ? Stealing a living there pal.

 

[Number_25]

You don’t get how using the scales you’ve used are poor ? Stealing a living there pal.

Let me shower, and I'll take a look at the data myself and report back to you.

 

[dholliday]

Thatcher wanted and even urged the managed decline of my city , like many Scousers I’ve understandably got a fairly strong opinion on her .

sauce?

I volunteer at a local foodbank, and last week we had a woman come in who collapsed because he hadn't eat in 3 days as she has 4 kids to look after and her husband (who was the main breadwinner) died after Christmas. She was using paper ripped from books to stem the blood from her periods as she couldn't afford sanitary products.

2018.

Massively luxurious.

Honestly mate, that sounds like something from a Monty Python sketch.

Sorry, I work in data science and I'm struggling to understand how this graph is "poor".

It's biased. Biased = poor.