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No mate. The agenda of the hard left is to stamp on anyone they do not consider wirkin class. Seen it all before and never thought I would see it again. Hate the PM by the way and am disgusted by the lack of realism from Labour. After Cameron it should have been shooting fish in a barrel. Corbyn shot himself...genius. Now we will have ten years of horror after the initial bung to the North.

Hard left? Seriously? Wanting investment in hospitals, schools, social care, this is hard left politics is it?
After Cameron the 'right' in the party constantly and consistently attacked these policies and Corbyn personally despite the policies being implemented at conference. They answered to no one, not the elected NEC, nor their members, they went on a wrecking spree. The PLP right never attacked tory policy, yet regularly attacked labour policy they were elected to promote. From Watson to Umuna, Berger etc they all did the tories work for them, not only did that not promote the option of a better way it displayed disunity handing the clear election campaign to Cummings, so no, the 'agenda of the hard left' only exists in Mail and Telegraph readers and those duped into the 'four legs good' mantra of get brexit done.
 
Hard left? Seriously? Wanting investment in hospitals, schools, social care, this is hard left politics is it?
After Cameron the 'right' in the party constantly and consistently attacked these policies and Corbyn personally despite the policies being implemented at conference. They answered to no one, not the elected NEC, nor their members, they went on a wrecking spree. The PLP right never attacked tory policy, yet regularly attacked labour policy they were elected to promote. From Watson to Umuna, Berger etc they all did the tories work for them, not only did that not promote the option of a better way it displayed disunity handing the clear election campaign to Cummings, so no, the 'agenda of the hard left' only exists in Mail and Telegraph readers and those duped into the 'four legs good' mantra of get brexit done.
We've been sold the story that less people starving to death is unrealistic and would destroy the country, just read through this thread and you can see the well financed tory propaganda machine in full effect
 
Appearances are important, unfortunately. Someone on here said Corbyn's beard counted against him. And that's in a country where every man jack young and old seems to sport a beard! At least Corbs doesn't have tattoos - not visible ones anyway.
 

Yet more reasons why Long-Bailey shouldn't be a consideration.
It’s almost certain to be Long-bailey and the reason is Brexit and political positioning. Not that she’s anywhere near being pro brexit, mainly that how on earth do you convince the public to vote for a Blairite like Starmer. You would immediately lose anyone who voted for Corbyn and clearly the northern vote would remain Tory. What votes are there actually left to pick up with a centrist, remain stance at present?
 
It’s almost certain to be Long-bailey and the reason is Brexit and political positioning. Not that she’s anywhere near being pro brexit, mainly that how on earth do you convince the public to vote for a Blairite like Starmer. You would immediately lose anyone who voted for Corbyn and clearly the northern vote would remain Tory. What votes are there actually left to pick up with a centrist, remain stance at present?

Which is what I mean when I say that Momentum have murdered the Labour party.
 
Which is what I mean when I say that Momentum have murdered the Labour party.
All you do is slag off momentum. I have no real knowledge of them, but from the polices that they get the blame for all I can see is a willingness to help those less fortunate (bar and kinda including brexit). The reasons the left lost are numerous, but I always remember what I was told when I was about 9, the party with the most money wins the election.
Rambling, what killed the Labour Party was the finical (world) crash of 2008.Left = bad economy is too easy. We are all brainwashed with it as children.
 
Brexit was the keystone in this election, was always going to be. Corbyn was a 'leaver' all his political life. He allowed himself to let the Labour remainer's call the tune and decided that the best way to cover himself was to say he was 'neutral'. This was the worst thing he could have done and just emphasised his weakness.
That was his own fault, also the loss of the Jewish vote should not be underestimated.
Corbyn let in all of these remainers and then had to side with them.
The labour MP's also blocked an election aswell it was only because the lib Dems and Snp wanted one it forced there hand.
They knew what was coming.
 
Which is what I mean when I say that Momentum have murdered the Labour party.

It wasn’t Momentum who packed the PLP with drones who turned out to be rubbish at politics, who failed to build a popular platform even within their own party (even when they were in charge of it) and who seem to have no candidate whatsoever this time around.

In any case, even if the next leader turned out to be Jess Phillips, what remains of the right in the party, and the rather larger number of former members now employed as former members of the Labour Party in the media, will start banging on about “electability” within two months.
 
Brexit was the keystone in this election, was always going to be. Corbyn was a 'leaver' all his political life. He allowed himself to let the Labour remainer's call the tune and decided that the best way to cover himself was to say he was 'neutral'. This was the worst thing he could have done and just emphasised his weakness.

Not explaining his stance was something he was serially guilty of - his opposition to nuclear weapons for example.
 
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