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The pharma company has seen me off now, good grief he literally has no idea.

establishing a pharmaceutical company to make generic brand drugs will cost the country millions . Most pharma companies are granted patents on new drugs (5,7,10 years) once that’s up they become generic

to actually think you can break even to feed the NHS is ludicrous, it’ll cost tens of millions in operating costs each so how is that going to be close to getting the money back from the sales
 
The pharma company has seen me off now, good grief he literally has no idea.

establishing a pharmaceutical company to make generic brand drugs will cost the country millions . Most pharma companies are granted patents on new drugs (5,7,10 years) once that’s up they become generic

to actually think you can break even to feed the NHS is ludicrous, it’ll cost tens of millions in operating costs each so how is that going to be close to getting the money back from the sales

Just whatever you do, don't call them extreme.
 
Corbyn = a statesman and an honest man

Johnson = a malevolent pampered man-child who couldn't lie straight in bed


That's the choice for the Brirtish people.


All moving towards Universal Basic Service that a state should strive towards, where people have a right to education, health home with a decent environment and access to leisure and culture.
It wont be too hard to spot an angry Tory.:)
 
I think it's wise not to get your knickers in too much of twist about Labour's policies until a GE is called and their manifesto is out.

On the not unwise assumption that there will be a GE in the next few months, I think its reasonable to think that the sort of stuff he said today would be in one. Most are pretty difficult to rein back from.

And many, to my ears anyrate, seemed plain barmy. That said, he did frame his Brexit idea better than it has been framed before.
 
Incidentally, the 'gigafactory' built by Tesla and Panasonic for batteries cost $5bn back in 2014, which is about the same as the facility they're building in China. 7 countries had touted themselves as a home for their European factory, with Germany the frontrunner.

Building three of them though for half the price that a company with a pretty strong track record of building battery factories manages to build one doesn't seem entirely realistic.

Oh Jeremy Corbyn
Is full of crap

Oh, and the few British companies that have any expertise in this stuff are Johnson Matthey Battery Systems, who do batteries for Jaguar, Rolls Royce et al. They're headquartered in Dundee, and their production facility is in Poland, and Hyperdrive Innovation, who are based in Sunderland. Or nowhere near any of his proposed sites in South Wales, Stoke and Swindon. The factories aren't all, as they also pledged to invest £3bn in car manufacturers themselves in return for a cut of any profits they make from electric vehicles.

Nissan in Sunderland sold its battery plant just recently to Envision AESC. Plant wasn't that old , I remember quoting the busbar system a few years back.

That 5 billion pound plant by Tesla must be massive.

The company i work for buys used batteries from Nissan to put them into Energy storage systems for domestic use.
 
Thanks for the interesting and thorough reply (and I'll always have time for anyone that references Dani Rodrik). I don't doubt any of what you say, not least because Rodrik et al are far more qualified than me to hold court on macroeconomics. I do undoubtedly instinctively find it peculiar that governments can have deficit year after year and be fine with that, and I would guess that there is a limit beyond which it does become a problem, as perhaps Japan, Italy and Greece have shown. We were at a time also when the global financial system had been brought to its knees by excessive and reckless lending/borrowing, so I'm sure there was a PR element to being seen not to continue that and to live within one's means.

If anything though, the Greek situation has shown what can be achieved if structural problems are addressed, even if short-term pain was inevitably caused. That has to be far better than pretending they don't exist and printing your way out of any problems.

We've been talking a bit above this about education, and there is a huge logic in improving the flexibility of the economy, whether through labour mobility (both in terms of people being able to move physically about but also retraining should economics/technology disrupt their livelihood), local government flexibility and a reformed property market via something like the land value tax.

Had Labour spent their conference talking about these things, which are in many ways causes of the leave vote in many instances, then I'd have had very little to grumble about, but instead the 4 day week and banning public schools have been what's emerged. That may well be simply the policies that have grabbed headlines, and other things have been discussed, I accept that, but I can only go by what I see (@tsubaki has been unusually quiet so perhaps he's at the conference?).

Anyway, thanks for the considered post.

Alas no, I am in the South of France.

Alright maybe not “alas”.
 
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