Ah, so he gives people agency over things just so long as it suits him, but in all other instances he's quite happy telling them what's best for them?
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Ah, so he gives people agency over things just so long as it suits him, but in all other instances he's quite happy telling them what's best for them?
davek
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That's not just for british elections...they poll for all sorts of things.
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Dunno, that's pretty good
YouGov are generally recognised as being overtly political. Outliers. They're methodology a complete mystery. It's like alchemy.
davek
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The LibDems will get their usual 40 seats and then go into free fall post election. That's just a given.
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Polls that say things I agree with: Good
Polls that say things I disagree with: Biased tools of the boss class.
I'd be wary of taking anything Peter Hitchens says as gospel truth also.
Polls that say things I disagree with: Biased tools of the boss class.
I'd be wary of taking anything Peter Hitchens says as gospel truth also.
NilSatisOptimum
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I rather like well funded NHS, Police Local Authority etc. If you dont its fine. Go and join Farage et al.
Billy Dean
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Polls are not too much use at this stage. IIRC they changed massively during the last GE once campaigning got underway
Lib Dem conference bounce, whilst drawing in hard 'remainers' with the revoke pledge.
This is probably a tad more accurate.
Corbyn supporters still haven't cottoned on to the bubble they're in when it comes to his popular support - e.g. he doesn't have any.
In any other political climate, these polls would be an untenable embarrassment for an opposition leader - but because of the tribalism/dear leader attitude that persists, Corbyn is bulletproof to his core supporters.
How is it a myth? Whenever it's brought up, people flat out don't believe that he's deeply unpopular and blame the media for peoples' opinions of him.
Take his objectively terrible nonsense the other day about Remain vs. a fantasy Labour deal and how he wouldn't say how he'd vote in such a scenario - people still defended him.
The tribalism is insane when it comes to Corbyn - it's a cult of personality.
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It's not like there was no warning signs. Felt the same thing from when he first became leader and more importantly most other people do too.
The only difference is that the Tories have joined the race to the bottom where I would actually consider a Labour/SNP government to the one we have now. And let me tell you I had no idea I would be ever saying that...
That's his only chance of becoming PM - where he becomes one basically by default due to the Tories imploding and the FPTP system accommodating him.
He'd be the most unpopular elected Prime Minister in history.
I don't think you've ever quite grasped what it is people like about Corbyn though. Nobody is/was drawn to him because of his huge personality because, as decent a person he seems to be, he's not exactly the most arresting public speaker is he?
The 'cult of personality' thing really bugs me, sorry. It's either ignorant or plainly disingenuous on your part to belittle someone's opinion that, hey, maybe it would be nice to have a genuinely socialist leader of the country's main socialist party? It's been quite a deviation since the last one, so they're quite entitled to defend it.
As for the 'objectively terrible nonsense' you mentioned – have you seen a more credible alternative yet?
NilSatisOptimum
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I'll be the judge of the bubble I'm in, when election manifesto are published, don't need hyperbolic partisans telling me otherwise, who just appear are high on Brexit obsessed Liberals.
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They would, but the reason why Corbyn can ignore them is the same reason why he could ignore the 2016 vote of no confidence, and the reason why this notion of tribalism / "dear leader" of yours is nonsense. Corbyn really does have the genuine support of the majority (probably an overwhelming majority) of the party, who after all did usually join Labour because it was a left-wing organization and so actually quite like it to be led by an actual left-wing figure who proposes left-wing policies.
What also helps of course is that the internal opposition to him is completely useless.
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