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[zzr45]

Of course the anti Corbyn fan club and the main stream media ignore people who condemn the witch hunt against Corbyn, Labour party members and Labour MPs. This anti semitism witch hunt coup will not go away until it is taken on full square in open debate. A taste of things to come - Jess Phillips calling for Corbyn to 'consider his position (as Labour leader)' is an attempt to start the bandwagon rolling, along with Tory 'opinion polls'. Her and the likes of Watson would rather see the Labour party destroyed than see a Corbyn government. Those two are the visible spokespersons for a 'party' within a party acting to undermine the leadership and ignoring the democratic wishes of Labour members who've twice elected Corbyn as leader. It's quite ironic these 'democrats' who spout about the 'democratic wishes of the people' aren't democrats when it's a result they don't agree with.

Noam Chomsky backs Chris Williamson, and calls the antisemitism smear campaign ‘an insult to the memory’ of Holocaust victims


Harry Tuttle@arryTuttle


Okay. Here is goes. (1) Professor Norman Finkelstein, a jewish academic, both of who's parents were holocaust survivors, is apparently an antisemite and it was his cartoon which Naz Shah retweeted and which was falsely miscontextualised as antisemitic .

Absolute twaddle. Right now the biggest threat to the working class that the Labour Party claims to represent is a no deal Brexit. What’s the leader actually doing towards preventing this? Absolutely nothing at present and instead seems to be focusing on the whole anti Semitic issue instead of the massive issue that’s about to happen.

It’s pretty damning when even the guardian is essentially pointing out the massive issues. https://www.theguardian.com/comment...w-on-jeremy-corbyn-new-deeds-and-words-needed

 

[orchard]

Absolute twaddle. Right now the biggest threat to the working class that the Labour Party claims to represent is a no deal Brexit. What’s the leader actually doing towards preventing this? Absolutely nothing at present and instead seems to be focusing on the whole anti Semitic issue instead of the massive issue that’s about to happen.

It’s pretty damning when even the guardian is essentially pointing out the massive issues. https://www.theguardian.com/comment...w-on-jeremy-corbyn-new-deeds-and-words-needed

*should know better than to think Guardian supports Corbyn.

 

[zzr45]

*should know better than to think Guardian supports Corbyn.

It’s been far more pro-Corbyn than any other publication. It gets to another issue as to how far the ‘MSM’ narrative can be pushed until it gets to the point of ridiculousness. There seems to be an eagerness from some quarters for the press to really get at political figures, but when it’s one of their own it’s seen as propaganda or fixing.

Like it or loathe it, people aren’t keen on Corbyn. A lot of the media reflects that.

 

[MarkK1988]

It’s been far more pro-Corbyn than any other publication. It gets to another issue as to how far the ‘MSM’ narrative can be pushed until it gets to the point of ridiculousness. There seems to be an eagerness from some quarters for the press to really get at political figures, but when it’s one of their own it’s seen as propaganda or fixing.

Like it or loathe it, people aren’t keen on Corbyn. A lot of the media reflects that.

i like him but history has proved he isnt a strong opposition for them.

sadly i think if labour are getting back in it needs to be another blairite so the middle swing voters trust him

 

[MarkK1988]

Absolute twaddle. Right now the biggest threat to the working class that the Labour Party claims to represent is a no deal Brexit. What’s the leader actually doing towards preventing this? Absolutely nothing at present and instead seems to be focusing on the whole anti Semitic issue instead of the massive issue that’s about to happen.

It’s pretty damning when even the guardian is essentially pointing out the massive issues. https://www.theguardian.com/comment...w-on-jeremy-corbyn-new-deeds-and-words-needed

funny how much the anti semetic thing is seen as so massive considering Johnson has proven to be pretty much anti everything other than rich white man and hes getting the top job

 

[orchard]

It’s been far more pro-Corbyn than any other publication. It gets to another issue as to how far the ‘MSM’ narrative can be pushed until it gets to the point of ridiculousness. There seems to be an eagerness from some quarters for the press to really get at political figures, but when it’s one of their own it’s seen as propaganda or fixing.

Like it or loathe it, people aren’t keen on Corbyn. A lot of the media reflects that.

Hey look, that cart's so loaded it's pulling the horse! X

 

[zzr45]

Hey look, that cart's so loaded it's pulling the horse! X

Eh, I get your point. I also know a fair few (older) labour voters that have never been on board with him because of his perceived closeness with the unions. There’s always been a bit of resentment round these parts that the unions were seen to be taking the proverbial with their membership and that’s tended to sink in.

 

[NilSatisOptimum]

It’s been far more pro-Corbyn than any other publication. It gets to another issue as to how far the ‘MSM’ narrative can be pushed until it gets to the point of ridiculousness. There seems to be an eagerness from some quarters for the press to really get at political figures, but when it’s one of their own it’s seen as propaganda or fixing.

Like it or loathe it, people aren’t keen on Corbyn. A lot of the media reflects that.

It's gone about trying to demonize Corbyn in the most underhand way, pleased I pulled my online subs couple of years back and have gone elsewhere, that is truly independent!

 

[orchard]

Eh, I get your point. I also know a fair few (older) labour voters that have never been on board with him because of his perceived closeness with the unions. There’s always been a bit of resentment round these parts that the unions were seen to be taking the proverbial with their membership and that’s tended to sink in.

Yeah, well i'm not too keen on what i know of Unions and their involvement, nor some other aspects of Labour, however, i am convinced we need a social swing to strengthen our society.

Anyway,back to the original point, it's the media leading opinion, without a doubt.

 

[johnblue23]

Absolute twaddle. Right now the biggest threat to the working class that the Labour Party claims to represent is a no deal Brexit. What’s the leader actually doing towards preventing this? Absolutely nothing at present and instead seems to be focusing on the whole anti Semitic issue instead of the massive issue that’s about to happen.

It’s pretty damning when even the guardian is essentially pointing out the massive issues. https://www.theguardian.com/comment...w-on-jeremy-corbyn-new-deeds-and-words-needed

The biggest threat to the working class has been anti working class policies like the bedroom tax, DWP sanctions, cuts in welfare benefits, cuts to working credits, council house shortage, rents going through the roof , deregulation of safety regulations that has resulted in scandals like Grenfell etc. etc. - all started by the Blairites whilst in government - and the forerunner to austerity. All while in the EU. In or out the EU anti working class policies will continue by the Tories and the Blairites if they get rid of the Corbyn led Labour party. Incidentally, the EU couldn't and didn't stop the financial crisis that so imposed austerity on the working class and it wont be able to stop the next financial crisis.

It is the anti Corbyn brigade that constantly raise the issue of anti semitism to attack Corbyn. Corbyn has been in the forefront of raising anti working class austerity proposals and the policies of this government. Can the same be said of Watson and Phillips for example?

 

[Blue 1]

The antisemitism stuff will go away as soon as Corbyn steps down, despite the party being "riddled with it" and it being "institutional". You just watch.

 

[zzr45]

The biggest threat to the working class has been anti working class policies like the bedroom tax, DWP sanctions, cuts in welfare benefits, cuts to working credits, council house shortage, rents going through the roof , deregulation of safety regulations that has resulted in scandals like Grenfell etc. etc. - all started by the Blairites whilst in government - and the forerunner to austerity. All while in the EU. In or out the EU anti working class policies will continue by the Tories and the Blairites if they get rid of the Corbyn led Labour party. Incidentally, the EU couldn't and didn't stop the financial crisis that so imposed austerity on the working class and it wont be able to stop the next financial crisis.

It is the anti Corbyn brigade that constantly raise the issue of anti semitism to attack Corbyn. Corbyn has been in the forefront of raising anti working class austerity proposals and the policies of this government. Can the same be said of Watson and Phillips for example?

Ahh you're a poverty porn fan.

You don't see how tariffs on food, loss of jobs etc is going to exacerbate these things?

Jesus wept.

 

[johnblue23]

Labour chief defends 'flying pigs' ad | Media | The Guardian

"Both Mr Howard and Mr Letwin are Jewish and according to their faith pigs are unclean.

The other poster featured Mr Howard swinging a pocket watch on a chain and the strapline, "I can spend the same money twice."

The pose has been likened to that of Jewish pickpocket Fagin from Charles Dickens' Oliver and money lender Shylock from Shakespeare's The Merchant of Venice.

Jewish Labour MPs said they did not believe the posters were deliberately anti-semitic but found them offensive nonetheless.

Louise Ellman MP, who is vice-chairman of Labour Friends of Israel, said the Fagin poster was "very insensitive".

"I do not think it is deliberately anti-semitic, but we should not have such posters," she said.

Ned Temko, the editor of the Jewish Chronicle, told BBC Radio 4: "I like to think the posters were a cock-up rather than a conspiracy."

If the coup against Corbyn is successful any 'anti semitism' in the Labour party will then become 'very insensitive but not anti-semitic'.

 

[johnblue23]

Ahh you're a poverty porn fan.

You don't see how tariffs on food, loss of jobs etc is going to exacerbate these things?

Jesus wept.

Food poverty is rising for the poorest, working or not, in society hence the rise of food banks, whilst in the EU. Jobs have been lost whilst in the EU. DWP sanctions have been carried out whilst in the EU. Windrush, Grenfell whilst in the EU. Financial crisis whilst in the EU. Things will get worse for the working class in or out the EU. If Brexit is stopped, which it more than likely seems to be what is going to happen, the UK will not be some sort of land of milk and honey for the working class.

On Brexit, Corbyn is following Labour party policy. You know the one members passed at the Labour party conference, democratically. Those proposing and acting differently in the Labour party are working against the Labour party's conference decisions.

 

[dwightschrute]

Some good news from the reselection push

Labour's Kate Hoey will not stand in next general election

The Brexit-backing MP caused controversy within her party during the 2016 referendum.

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