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[mightymoyes]

Blairites devasted this morning

 

[shagpuss]

First time on this thread. Too many previous pages to go through.
But very happy with last night's result. Labour did well to hold off the Brexit Party. The media was willing Farage to win so it could stick the knife even deeper into Corbyn's back. And no doubt the Blairites were praying for this too.
Reading too much into this result, the Europeans or even the Locals won't help us though in predicting the result of a GE though.
That's what we really need at the moment. A GE where all the issues, not just Brexit, are put to the British people. The political situation is very volatile at the moment. But this country desperately needs a Labour government. Parliament is in gridlock and the Tories are ruining the social fabric whilst our environment degrades further.

 

[peteblue]

First time on this thread. Too many previous pages to go through.
But very happy with last night's result. Labour did well to hold off the Brexit Party. The media was willing Farage to win so it could stick the knife even deeper into Corbyn's back. And no doubt the Blairites were praying for this too.
Reading too much into this result, the Europeans or even the Locals won't help us though in predicting the result of a GE though.
That's what we really need at the moment. A GE where all the issues, not just Brexit, are put to the British people. The political situation is very volatile at the moment. But this country desperately needs a Labour government. Parliament is in gridlock and the Tories are ruining the social fabric whilst our environment degrades further.

There are a great many things that this country needs at the moment, but a government led by Corbyn isn’t one of them....

 

[johnblue23]

The so called unelectable 'anti Semite' has just produced an astonishing result. This is 1997 all over again when the Tory vote refused to vote for Major and the scandal riven Tory party. Despite the sour grapes from the msm, it's just a question of the size of Labour's majority.

 

[Alan Whittle]

The so called unelectable 'anti Semite' has just produced an astonishing result. This is 1997 all over again when the Tory vote refused to vote for Major and the scandal riven Tory party. Despite the sour grapes from the msm, it's just a question of the size of Labour's majority.

Some result in an area that voted something like 60% leave in the referendum.

 

[NilSatisOptimum]

Not sure a scraped Labour victory over a party that's a few months old, after the previous Labour incumbent was kicked out for a criminal conviction is a sign of the party's vitality tbh. But sure, go Jezzer or something.

Should have been a shoe in for any other party but Labour given some very pertinent circumstances. However, it was not to be...

Stop being ridiculous.



I also believe the timing of your casual use of the term "fascist" is both disgusting and, at best, ignorant of the many sacrifices made by many nationalities to free Europe of the real fascists 7 years ago.

Some very unsavoury undertones in Brexit Party, just baby steps now, but sinister shadow over that party.

Some result in an area that voted something like 60% leave in the referendum.

Think its been purposely ignored, by Brexit and those just opposed to Labour.

 

[Joey66]

A hostile meeting last night .......

 

[devogue]

Stop being ridiculous.

I agree this was a very important by election for Labour, but the battle they had was whether their traditional supporters would put everyday labour values above their wish to leave the EU. In the end they did, and a lot of credit has to go to the local Labour volunteers for making this happen. Had Brexit won this by election it would have been a real kick in the teeth for Labour and made them think again about their position on Brexit. I think this gives them some encouragement now to come out firmly on the side of Remain.

I also believe the timing of your casual use of the term "fascist" is both disgusting and, at best, ignorant of the many sacrifices made by many nationalities to free Europe of the real fascists 7 years ago.

7 years ago?

 

[Aberblue]

The so called unelectable 'anti Semite' has just produced an astonishing result. This is 1997 all over again when the Tory vote refused to vote for Major and the scandal riven Tory party. Despite the sour grapes from the msm, it's just a question of the size of Labour's majority.

Labour are so poor right now, a hair's breadth victory in a seat they held anyway is a major thing. When a sitting government is in utter and complete disarray, Labour should be sweeping up seats like Peterborough with ease. Instead, they are disliked almost as much as the government, and the Brexit "party" came within 700 votes of them. A party that has been around for 8 weeks and one policy.
But Labour see Corbyn as a hero for losing to the worst run Tory election campaign in history and they are celebrating winning a local election by their fingernails to a brand new party.

 

[peteblue]

Labour are so poor right now, a hair's breadth victory in a seat they held anyway is a major thing. When a sitting government is in utter and complete disarray, Labour should be sweeping up seats like Peterborough with ease. Instead, they are disliked almost as much as the government, and the Brexit "party" came within 700 votes of them. A party that has been around for 8 weeks and one policy.
But Labour see Corbyn as a hero for losing to the worst run Tory election campaign in history and they are celebrating winning a local election by their fingernails to a brand new party.

And even the 700 votes have a whiff of electoral fraud.....

 

[Aberblue]

And even the 700 votes have a whiff of electoral fraud.....

What is this? I've seen no suggestion of fraud.

 

[peteblue]

What is this? I've seen no suggestion of fraud.

Hahahahaha.......

 

[Aberblue]

Hahahahaha.......

Hahahahaha.......

Do you have any evidence? Genuine question.

 

[peteblue]

“There has been a growing fallout over the Peterborough by-election with accusations that there was widespread tampering with high numbers of postal votes. There was also the presence of Tariq Mahmood on the night of the election with further evidence that he was involved with the overall campaign. Mahmood and others were jailed in 2008 for postal vote fraud with many questioning the significant number of ballots received by post and what appears to be the majority of them going to Labour.”

 

[peteblue]

“Yet despite Peterborough City Council being made aware that convicted vote-fraudster, Tariq Mahmood had been employed once again by the Labour campaign team during the election, and despite there being an abnormally high number of postal votes accompanied by the Labour party beating the then incumbent Tory MP, Brexiteer Stewart Jackson by under 700 votes, City Councillors voted to withdraw from a pilot scheme that could have significantly decreased the types of electoral fraud that have eroded the small Cambridgeshire City for decades.”