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[orchard]

I'm confused.... you're Antifa???

Sort of eclipsed a valid point that he may have eventually got a cross, haha

 

[zzr45]

Oh I'm going g to tell my mammy of you and if you going to dish it out expect it back or grow up.
1900s is that the example of your debate, the good old days hey of no holidays for the working man, I get it.

I’m not dishing it out at all. You don’t know me, yet your happy to paint me as a hooray Henry because I think it’s ridiculous that people are judged on what class they belong to, rather than the arguments, discussion or whatever else they produce.

Your posts have dripped with chip on the shoulder envy, ‘spring water cooler’ ‘poverty porn’ ‘conscious sated for 5 minutes.’ You’re such a bigot it is actually untrue.

And don’t bother your mam. She’ll be entertaining her upper class customers.

 

[abelard]

look no further than how the UK media covers THIS EXACT STORY to understand the problem...

 

[orchard]

 

[zzr45]

Sort of eclipsed a valid point that he may have eventually got a cross, haha

Never let valid points get in the way of looking a prat.

 

[abelard]

Never let valid points get in the way of looking a prat.

words I too have lived by...

 

[orchard]

I’m not dishing it out at all. You don’t know me, yet your happy to paint me as a hooray Henry because I think it’s ridiculous that people are judged on what class they belong to, rather than the arguments, discussion or whatever else they produce.

Your posts have dripped with chip on the shoulder envy, ‘spring water cooler’ ‘poverty porn’ ‘conscious sated for 5 minutes.’ You’re such a bigot it is actually untrue.

And don’t bother your mam. She’ll be entertaining her upper class customers.

-and you've done likewise in correspondence between ourselves on here, and you were also wrong. Stop doubling down and be more constructive.

 

[zzr45]

-and you've done likewise in correspondence between ourselves on here, and you were also wrong. Stop doubling down and be more constructive.

Get back in your socialist ivory tower...

No, it is far more enjoyable (if that’s the word) when these discussions are driven by actual debate rather than character assassination, I think as we all get closer to the iceberg on the good ship Brexit that sort of point scoring nonsense will disappear. All doomed together.

 

[abelard]

I think as we all get closer to the iceberg on the good ship Brexit that sort of point scoring nonsense will disappear. All doomed together.

I see you are (wisely) unacquainted with our Brexit thread...

; )

 

[NilSatisOptimum]

I’m not dishing it out at all. You don’t know me, yet your happy to paint me as a hooray Henry because I think it’s ridiculous that people are judged on what class they belong to, rather than the arguments, discussion or whatever else they produce.

Your posts have dripped with chip on the shoulder envy, ‘spring water cooler’ ‘poverty porn’ ‘conscious sated for 5 minutes.’ You’re such a bigot it is actually untrue.

And don’t bother your mam. She’ll be entertaining her upper class customers.

Look at yourself I challenged the BBC and social inequality it's you desperately wanting to make it personal. Challenged and soon reaching for vitriolic name calling, I may not know you but i know the type.

The BBC does poverty porn, with its, oh look how difficult it is to be working class and brought up in a tower block programs. Class has always been a problem, it's always been the case, more so than colour or religion

And what's wrong with a BBC board that is publicly elected, rather some old boys network..

 

[zzr45]

Challenged and soon reaching for vitriolica name calling, I may not know you but i know the type.

The BBC does poverty porn, with its, oh look how difficult it is to be working class and brought up in a tower block programs. Class has always been a problem, it's always been the case, more so than colour or religion

And what's wrong with a BBC board that is publicly elected, rather some old boys network..

Not really, I stand by the fact you’re a bigot.

I’ve never bothered with any ‘poverty porn’ so I’ll take your word for it, wouldn’t exactly say it’s a mainstay and whenever I’ve caught any of it, it tends to be inquisitive as to why things are the way they are.

And there’s nothing wrong with a publiclly elected BBC board, though one might imagine that it’ll be about as popular as the police commissioner voting. What I have a problem with, and I’ve had from the start is the notion that because someone is whatever class their output should be ignored instead of being judged on merit.

 

[Number_25]

Up the reds.

 

[Gwladysstreetlad]

Up the reds.

Just no mate, sing "oh Jeremy Corbyn" or say "come on Labour", use your imagination and say ANYTHING. Just leave the red colour out of it!

 

[NilSatisOptimum]

Not really, I stand by the fact you’re a bigot.

I’ve never bothered with any ‘poverty porn’ so I’ll take your word for it, wouldn’t exactly say it’s a mainstay and whenever I’ve caught any of it, it tends to be inquisitive as to why things are the way they are.

And there’s nothing wrong with a publiclly elected BBC board, though one might imagine that it’ll be about as popular as the police commissioner voting. What I have a problem with, and I’ve had from the start is the notion that because someone is whatever class their output should be ignored instead of being judged on merit.

Despite the link to a conclusive Government report and the last two prime ministers both May and Cameron recognise social inequality and you believe there is no inequality in the UK or it does not matter and then resort to personal insults to try and shut down being challenged, you need to check on the definition of bigotry. And I dont even believe you even know the negatives of social inequality and consequences of it or understand its concept.

Typical consequence of this book,

https://www.bitebackpublishing.com/books/bluffocracy

 

[tsubaki]

Really? You don’t know jack about me at all pal. Let’s just say if you’d said that to my face you’d be more concerned about the mobility of your limbs in the near future...

But, again, why does it matter where someones come from over what they are actually saying? Does that mean that the Rowntrees should have kept their mouths shut in the 1900s, because as upper class people, what could they possibly have to contribute?

The Rowntrees organised themselves and put their money where their mouth was, as fwiw did Carnegie, Peabody and the rest. They did a lot of good and the evidence is still around us today.

The difference here of course is that this is public money (or at least money from the public) and that it is being focused on a very small group of people who happen to be even better connected than the normal establishment.

Look at your man Tristram Hunt for example, who got the top job at the V&A despite having no experience of running a museum. Or James Purnell, who glided gently between Oxford, helping Blair, a senior job at the Beeb (in his early 20s), a safe seat, ministerial office, various wonkages and finally £295k p.a back at the Beeb.

These are the people who tell you about being fiscally prudent by the way.