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[peteblue]

Did you see how much the country spent in the Rwanda Plan?

Just wondered if you thought that was joined up and thought given to consequence and cost.

Because things like social care, which operate on fine margins are indirectly impacted by such a collosal waste of public money.

Also, as I pointed out, multiple times in the Brexit thread, social care was heavily susceptible to fluctuations in the £ and relied on EU/international labour.

Dress it up however you want, but as a country, we are having to deal with the disastrous decisions of the last 14 years.

I thought it was a complete waste of money and said so. I’d ask you what you think Starmer is doing to reduce the £5 Bn spent each on illegal immigration each year, but as he’s doing nothing except allowing the numbers to rise it would be an unfair question…..

 

[Kurt.]

I thought it was a complete waste of money and said so. I’d ask you what you think Starmer is doing to reduce the £5 Bn spent each on illegal immigration each year, but as he’s doing nothing except allowing the numbers to rise it would be an unfair question…..

5 billion each !!!!! You in a lock in still ????

 

[Amw79]

I thought it was a complete waste of money and said so. I’d ask you what you think Starmer is doing to reduce the £5 Bn spent each on illegal immigration each year, but as he’s doing nothing except allowing the numbers to rise it would be an unfair question…..

Was reading about this the other day. Since August the Home Office have processed about 40,000 asylum applications. That means those legitimate asylum seekers who were receiving money and staying in accommodation, will have had the money stopped, been moved out of that accommodation, and be able to work, and contribute to the economy.

In the 3 or 4 months before the election, the Home Office processed next to no applications, as it was stuck in a court battle over the badly written Rwanda legislation, and couldn’t do anything with those applications. So those people were getting the money and staying in accommodation indefinitely, with no one able to assess their claim.

I’d propose that is an improvement.

 

[davek]

Not really a fan of hers but she nails this one:

So Labour waded into the Gregg Wallace row. Why don’t they get their own house, parliament, in order? | Marina Hyde

Westminster is so notorious for bad workplace behaviour it’s known as ‘Pestminster’, but politicians seem more worried about a TV cooking show, says Guardian columnist Marina Hyde

www.theguardian.com

Why has the prime minister weighed in on the content of a Gregg Wallace Instagram video? News that Keir Starmer’s spokesperson has taken the trouble to denounce the outer monologue of the beleaguered MasterChef host means – somewhat amazingly – that Gregg has no longer said the stupidest thing this week. This is, after all, supposed to be the week of Starmer’s big reset. Pivoting to rent-a-quote somehow does not feel like the solution that a malfunctioning UK requires.

Perhaps Starmer thought it would make him more popular? He is polling at a minus 33% approval rating with the British public, which I would have thought was actually rather lower than Gregg Wallace. Perhaps this is why the No 10 spokesperson felt – wrongly – that it might be the business of a prime minister to have a view on reporters’ questions about what he felt about someone blowing up their career on Insta at 7am on a Sunday.

We never hear him explain why the parties’ own complaints procedures are still completely closed books to the outside world. Last year, it was revealed that a woman had spent three years waiting for the Labour party to investigate a groping and sexual harassment claim against a senior party aide. It was finally upheld, only for the man to be let off with a warning. You’d think all of these things, and many more like them, are more the concern of senior politicians than a cooking show. Perhaps the prime minister has a comment?

 

[Jebus_lives]

I thought it was a complete waste of money and said so. I’d ask you what you think Starmer is doing to reduce the £5 Bn spent each on illegal immigration each year, but as he’s doing nothing except allowing the numbers to rise it would be an unfair question…..

Well we can scrap £750m off that £5Bn straight away.

 

[Harryflashman]

Well we can scrap £750m off that £5Bn straight away.

It was really interesting hearing an independent expert talk about why the system is currently such a mess and why hotels are being utilised to such an extent . It was effectively because the Tory government legislation, to force through the rwanda policy , was saying that nobody could have their applications processed as they ‘had to be deported to Rwanda ‘ so basically the system ground to a halt . The previous government created the very ‘problems ‘ they’re so angry about

(Apologies if I’ve explained that badly but hopefully you get the idea )

 

[Jebus_lives]

It was really interesting hearing an independent expert talk about why the system is currently such a mess and why hotels are being utilised to such an extent . It was effectively because the Tory government legislation, to force through the rwanda policy , was saying that nobody could have their applications processed as they ‘had to be deported to Rwanda ‘ so basically the system ground to a halt . The previous government created the very ‘problems ‘ they’re so angry about

(Apologies if I’ve explained that badly but hopefully you get the idea )

That's exactly right. The previous goverment have totally neglected the system, while pushing up the cost due to legal requirements.

Public services are decimated so there is a reliance on hotels and emergency accommodation. Which cost significant amounts of money when it becomes prolonged - which it does because we wanted the performative nonsense position as "tough on immigrants"

Now @peteblue is wondering why the incoming government haven't sorted it out in 4 months.

 

[Bruce Wayne]

That's exactly right. The previous goverment have totally neglected the system, while pushing up the cost due to legal requirements.

Public services are decimated so there is a reliance on hotels and emergency accommodation. Which cost significant amounts of money when it becomes prolonged - which it does because we wanted the performative nonsense position as "tough on immigrants"

Now @peteblue is wondering why the incoming government haven't sorted it out in 4 months.

By "sort it", you and I both know he just wants people to not be here in the first place.

 

[peteblue]

5 billion each !!!!! You in a lock in still ????

Haha…..

 

[davek]

Two-child benefit: SNP government vows to scrap cap

Finance Secretary Shona Robison also announced plans to change the income tax system in her Budget speech.

www.bbc.co.uk

The SNP minister told MSPs: "My challenge to Labour is to work with us - join us in ending the cap in Scotland, give us the information that we need.
"But, either way, let me be crystal clear, this government is to end the two-child cap and in doing so will lift over 15,000 Scottish children out of poverty."

Dont hold your breath for the Starmer neo-liberal Gang to help you out there, Shona.

 

[NilSatisOptimum]

Closer ties to the EU sounds like an excellent idea!

 

[Rita_Poon]

Closer ties to the EU sounds like an excellent idea!

Been on the cards for a while. Neither side will come out and say it but both sides need one another.

 

[NilSatisOptimum]

Been on the cards for a while. Neither side will come out and say it but both sides need one another.

Looks like wether we like or not, immigration has become an issue throughout the European Union and we look like forerunner of things to come over our departure, maybe this will bring us together again , myself firmly blame economics of the liberal kind... Indeed, soemthing got to give with Laissez-faire of the wealthy amassing so much at the expense of key infrastructure being left behind as populations grow and poorest of all, refugees that's going to get it.

 

[NilSatisOptimum]

More Governing from Government, just getting on with it.

Secretary of State begins process of repealing Legacy Act

Hilary Benn begins the process of formally repealing the controversial Troubles legislation.

www.bbc.co.uk

 

[davek]

Starmer about to relaunch his government after the outrageously bad start it made.

Maybe one of the things he'll offer the public is that, given we're in December and his gang have enacted a lot of policy, that it's his government's responsibility to account for what's going on here now and not any other government.

They've shot that fox. Time for the Starmer Gang to accept they alone are answerable for their actions.