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[Zatara]

As an example (given your apparent expertise in entrepreneurship)

Machine learning academics are flocking to tech giants and that might be a problem

The die is very much cast when it comes to the growth of machine learning. With the expansion of tech companies like Google, Amazon and Uber, artificial intelligence-based research and products is a growth industry that’s only just getting

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Entrepreneurs? Machine based learning?

Tech geeks who go for PHDs to jump ship into the private sector is a bit different to 'staff' imo

 

[Bruce Wayne]

Entrepreneurs? Machine based learning?

Tech geeks who go for PHDs to jump ship into the private sector is a bit different to 'staff' imo

It's okay to admit you don't really know what you're talking about.

 

[JimmyJeffers]

It's okay to admit you don't really know what you're talking about.

I’m guessing you’ve never seen his fantasy formations

 

[Zatara]

It's okay to admit you don't really know what you're talking about.

Ive hired PHD geeks since 20 years ago.

Anyone wanting to go into a financial markets career with a PHD gets onto a higher track -- they are certainly not planning on being "staff" at a college once they have either their PHD or an offer.

How many PHD geeks have you hired or would you prefer to actually back up your claims of university staff being 'highly desired' in the private sector...

...which they are not.

 

[StDomingosGringo]

Ive hired PHD geeks since 20 years ago.

Anyone wanting to go into a financial markets career with a PHD gets onto a higher track -- they are certainly not planning on being "staff" at a college once they have either their PHD or an offer.

How many PHD geeks have you hired or would you prefer to actually back up your claims of university staff being 'highly desired' in the private sector...

...which they are not.

Claims to have hired “geeks” with doctorates for 20yrs yet doesn’t appear know it’s PhD.

Interesting.

By hired do you really mean have seen? Like for your many obvious issues.

 

[Zatara]

Claims to have hired “geeks” with doctorates for 20yrs yet doesn’t appear know it’s PhD.

Interesting.

By hired do you really mean have seen? Like for your many obvious issues.

Haha is it? No idea.

Yes hired

Would you care to support the original point made?

 

[COYBL25]

Universities are broke because tuition fees haven't risen in line with inflation, meaning graduates today have saved a couple of grand compared to graduates who went through the system when fees were first introduced. I'm curious how it's considered socialist to ask people on a minimum wage to pay for the education of high-earning graduates, rather than the beneficiaries of the education (ie the graduate) paying a chunk of their education (still not the entire sum, as we can see what that is based on what overseas students pay)? Or are you a champagne socialist Dave?

One of my lads is currently in his first year at a non redbrick.

He went there with the full knowledge and expectation, that he`d leave after three years, possibly four if he does a placement, with a sizeable debt - tuition fees and student loan, for accommodation, living expenses etc.

He`s completely cool with it, as are all his mates who went to various Uni`s too - some are paying more for their accommodation than him, as the cities they`re living in have a higher cost of living.

We`ve had to help him out, just to make his life a bit more comfortable whilst he`s there, but again, we`re cool with it, as we knew it would be part and parcel of him going to Uni.

He also got offered a scholarship to go and play rugby at Uni in America, which would`ve entailed us having to stump up 15k in all of his fees for his first year and this was with his scholarship too. ( It would be a hell of a lot more, if he`d got offered an Ivy League scholarship ) After his first year, the fees would reduce in increments, until he finally got to his fourth year, when it would`ve been 8K ( American degrees are four years )

From what I can gather, fees that parents pay like this are the norm in the States and massively more if your kid goes to an Ivy League college.

Only my own opinion, but I think that the current university fees offer incredible value for money and the tiny proposed rise, is neither here nor there.

 

[Daveysgingerlovechild]

Always love a thread when Zat makes an absolute idiot of himself.

It's a good day!

 

[StDomingosGringo]

Haha is it? No idea.

Yes hired

Would you care to support the original point made?

You have no idea about a great many things it seems.

Bruce very clearly explained to you why you were wrong. Feel free to check his answer again if you need to read things a few times for them to sink in.

 

[Bruce Wayne]

One of my lads is currently in his first year at a non redbrick.

He went there with the full knowledge and expectation, that he`d leave after three years, possibly four if he does a placement, with a sizeable debt - tuition fees and student loan, for accommodation, living expenses etc.

He`s completely cool with it, as are all his mates who went to various Uni`s too - some are paying more for their accommodation than him, as the cities they`re living in have a higher cost of living.

We`ve had to help him out, just to make his life a bit more comfortable whilst he`s there, but again, we`re cool with it, as we knew it would be part and parcel of him going to Uni.

He also got offered a scholarship to go and play rugby at Uni in America, which would`ve entailed us having to stump up 15k in all of his fees for his first year and this was with his scholarship too. ( It would be a hell of a lot more, if he`d got offered an Ivy League scholarship ) After his first year, the fees would reduce in increments, until he finally got to his fourth year, when it would`ve been 8K ( American degrees are four years )

From what I can gather, fees that parents pay like this are the norm in the States and massively more if your kid goes to an Ivy League college.

Only my own opinion, but I think that the current university fees offer incredible value for money and the tiny proposed rise, is neither here nor there.

And it's worth remembering that the lower the university in the rankings, the higher the proportion of graduates who will never pay back their loans. Now you may well argue that this is an indictment of the system, especially when the "market" that was originally hoped for when fees were introduced never materialised and every school simply charged the full amount, but that's perhaps a different conversation.

 

[COYBL25]

And it's worth remembering that the lower the university in the rankings, the higher the proportion of graduates who will never pay back their loans. Now you may well argue that this is an indictment of the system, especially when the "market" that was originally hoped for when fees were introduced never materialised and every school simply charged the full amount, but that's perhaps a different conversation.

Again only my opinion, but I really can`t see what all the fuss is about.

Going to Uni used to be the preserve of the kids from rich families, now it`s the norm for kids from all backgrounds to go.

The current system opened it up to everyone and should be applauded.

 

[Zatara]

You have no idea about a great many things it seems.

Bruce very clearly explained to you why you were wrong. Feel free to check his answer again if you need to read things a few times for them to sink in.

Yes, someone (me!) In the private sector with direct knowledge and experience in this precise area is "wrong" in favour of someone who It appears has zero knowledge or experience in this area.

This is the same outline in most CA threads.

Funnily enough its actual a comical issue as Quant teams with PHDs (yep im sticking to it as i couldnt care less) are being replaced by A.I.

So the 2019 link is actually well out of date.

But anyone with knowledge of the topic would know this...

 

[StDomingosGringo]

Yes, someone (me!) In the private sector with direct knowledge and experience in this precise area is "wrong" in favour of someone who It appears has zero knowledge or experience in this area.

This is the same outline in most CA threads.

Funnily enough its actual a comical issue as Quant teams with PHDs (yep im sticking to it as i couldnt care less) are being replaced by A.I.

So the 2019 link is actually well out of date.

But anyone with knowledge of the topic would know this...

Ahhh claiming not to care enough to get things right on a topic you also claim to be an expert on. That checks out.

But at least you’re not laughing at women dying due to being barred from accessing healthcare.

You’re not an Evertonian. You may think you are but you’re not.

 

[davek]

Charging people more and more for their education is a good thing.

The stuff you learn on this thread. Amazing.

Rich people telling poor people they should just carry a load of debt....like Marie Antoinette telling people to just eat cake.

Splendid stuff this.

 

[GrandOldTeam]