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[Bruce Wayne]

Would you agree in any part that the NHS has become a sort of golden goose for politicians, where there is always a crisis, a scandal, efficiencies to be made, new attitudes and management to implement, an organisation "to big to fail". So a never ending conveyor belt of political opportunity to talk tough upon? "Labour will save the NHS we implemented", "The tory-scum are the only party that can be trusted financially to bring the change to allow the NHS to not only survive but to thrive for the nation" etc...

Sadly, the NHS is a sort of catch all final stop for many of societies ills, fat, depressed, malnutrition, addiction, old, socially adrift, county lines, all take a turn under the nose of some Dr or medical professional of some sort or other. The slashing of community support has heaped so much more pressure just in terms of cases (ignoring the breadth of difference in cases) onto an already overburdened system.

Expectation is unrealistic, the country is on it's backside worse than it was after the bankers had a beano in 08/09. Same old situation, don't get injured or sick, the system is over run, maintain your health as best you can and hope and pray for the best.

I'm not optimistic about it as a service because of the politicised nature of it. As you say, all parties want to do this and that, while the public defends what is often indefensible (all while falsely assuming that if we didn't have the NHS we'd have to have the crapshoot America has).

It's already heading this way, but I can see any employer worth their salt will be offering private health insurance as an employee benefit, so you'll get those that can opting out of it entirely and avoiding the waiting lists and poor service, leaving the rest of us with whatever mess remains.

 

[JimmyJeffers]

It's already heading this way, but I can see any employer worth their salt will be offering private health insurance as an employee benefit, so you'll get those that can opting out of it entirely and avoiding the waiting lists and poor service, leaving the rest of us with whatever mess remains.

Pretty much the Portuguese model. Ok for many although probably costs employees more than they think and leaves those who don’t have these benefits relying on fairly sub standard care.

 

[NilSatisOptimum]

I'm not optimistic about it as a service because of the politicised nature of it. As you say, all parties want to do this and that, while the public defends what is often indefensible (all while falsely assuming that if we didn't have the NHS we'd have to have the crapshoot America has).

It's already heading this way, but I can see any employer worth their salt will be offering private health insurance as an employee benefit, so you'll get those that can opting out of it entirely and avoiding the waiting lists and poor service, leaving the rest of us with whatever mess remains.

Happens now and has for years. As long as its elective and not comorbid if it is the private equity groups craps themselves and off to NHS and waiting list you go.

 

[NilSatisOptimum]

Would you agree in any part that the NHS has become a sort of golden goose for politicians, where there is always a crisis, a scandal, efficiencies to be made, new attitudes and management to implement, an organisation "to big to fail". So a never ending conveyor belt of political opportunity to talk tough upon? "Labour will save the NHS we implemented", "The tory-scum are the only party that can be trusted financially to bring the change to allow the NHS to not only survive but to thrive for the nation" etc...

Sadly, the NHS is a sort of catch all final stop for many of societies ills, fat, depressed, malnutrition, addiction, old, socially adrift, county lines, all take a turn under the nose of some Dr or medical professional of some sort or other. The slashing of community support has heaped so much more pressure just in terms of cases (ignoring the breadth of difference in cases) onto an already overburdened system.

Expectation is unrealistic, the country is on it's backside worse than it was after the bankers had a beano in 08/09. Same old situation, don't get injured or sick, the system is over run, maintain your health as best you can and hope and pray for the best.

It's like 14 years of under investment by Tories means nothing all of a sudden. 10 years of under funding the NHS and its only since coming out of the pandemic and election looming did they start appropriately funding in reality, of course far too late to catch up. Indeed giving pay rises to overburdened under staffed is not clean slate. First service's to go under Austerity ideology was prevention services as they easy short term targets to save mone and let's not forget it was Tory and Liberal Democrat that done away with many prevention services, Clegg is still trumpeting this fiscal ideological policy.

 

[Rita_Poon]

It's like 14 years of under investment by Tories means nothing all of a sudden. 10 years of under funding the NHS and its only since coming out of the pandemic and election looming did they start appropriately funding in reality, of course far too late to catch up. Indeed giving pay rises to overburdened under staffed is not clean slate. First service's to go under Austerity ideology was prevention services as they easy short term targets to save mone and let's not forget it was Tory and Liberal Democrat that done away with many prevention services, Clegg is still trumpeting this fiscal policy.

Asset strippers, reduce the bottom line asap, show an improvement to the bank manager, then run away with the headlines and the 'victory' into the next disaster job and leave the mess to the victims of it.

"I'm alright Jack!"

 

[davek]

That plagiarising Chancellor is now handing out £2.3 billion to Ukraine while taking £300 WFA off 10 million of our pensioners.

'kin clown.

 

[Xizor]

That plagiarising Chancellor is now handing out £2.3 billion to Ukraine while taking £300 WFA off 10 million of our pensioners.

'kin clown.

Elderly millionaires going without a few extra bottles of fancy port in the face of fascist tyranny, just like their probably non-millionaire parents did with chocolate etc. Really warms the heart they're able to make that sacrifice in the cause of freedom without whinging about it.

 

[gonetomorrow]

It's clear that the government is going to have to borrow large amounts of money to fund the things that matter ie health and social housing. Starmer painted himself into a corner months ago by pledging no tax rises.
If he'd been honest I think he'd still have won the general election by a street.

 

[davek]

Elderly millionaires going without a few extra bottles of fancy port in the face of fascist tyranny, just like their probably non-millionaire parents did with chocolate etc. Really warms the heart they're able to make that sacrifice in the cause of freedom without whinging about it.

Hilarious.

Some people will die this winter and some of that will be because they're fearful of running up high energy bills.

But yeah, they're all drinking fancy port.

You fool.

 

[Bruce Wayne]

Hilarious.

Some people will die this winter and some of that will be because they're fearful of running up high energy bills.

But yeah, they're all drinking fancy port.

You fool.

Why are the people of Ukraine not deserving of the sympathies you give to those of Palestine Dave?

 

[davek]

Why are the people of Ukraine not deserving of the sympathies you give to those of Palestine Dave?

Is this a joke?

 

[COYBL25]

That plagiarising Chancellor is now handing out £2.3 billion to Ukraine while taking £300 WFA off 10 million of our pensioners.

'kin clown.

Mrs Zelenskyy will make short work of that.

She`ll have to charter the presidential jet to carry all the Jimmy Choo`s and Patek Philippe watches she`ll be spending it on.

 

[davek]

Mrs Zelenskyy will make short work of that.

She`ll have to charter the presidential jet to carry all the Jimmy Choo`s and Patek Philippe watches she`ll be spending it on.

...many a word spoken in jest.

 

[davek]

The brass neck on this feller:

'Keir Starmer “shares the public’s anger” at the sight of prisoners being released early today, Downing Street said this morning. But the last government is to blame.'

YOU let them go.

 

[Xizor]

Hilarious.

Some people will die this winter and some of that will be because they're fearful of running up high energy bills.

But yeah, they're all drinking fancy port.

You fool.

The ones who can still claim WFA won't be, you staggering dunce. You froth so much when you think you've got a point to score against Labour (especially this time as you got to attack your twin bêtes noires, Starmer & Zelenskyy) that you just keep repeating Tory attack lines and ignoring the actual situation that not every pensioner is losing it, because describing things as they actually are undermines your forced-contrarian stance completely.

The utter shame you must feel every morning posting this rabid gutter trash.