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[NilSatisOptimum]

...another one bites the dust.

I feel (a bit) sorry for the ones who were mugged off by Red Tory promising them stuff like this and then facing daily headlines about u-turns and austerity measures imposed on the vulnerable.

They must feel like total 'kin divvies now.

Be utterly embarrassing was very central too much of the preelection debate, shadow minister after shadow minister went out and defended it, against very hostile interviewers probably because they were fee pairing parents. And shadow ministers defended because know doubt it polled well in feedback and was morally correct path to take.

 

[davek]

Be utterly embarrassing was very central too much of the preelection debate, shadow minister after shadow minister went out and defended it, against very hostile interviewers probably because they were fee pairing parents. And shadow ministers defended because know doubt it polled well in feedback and was morally correct path to take.

I remember mate. It was "only right and correct" that this saving take place...'broadest shoulders' and all that.

We end up though with pensioners and welfare recipients taking a hit and the parents of chinless Lord Snooty's attending independent schools getting off scot-free.

As I say, I almost feel sorry for the mugs who were had-off by Red Tory. Almost.

 

[NilSatisOptimum]

I remember mate. It was "only right and correct" that this saving take place...'broadest shoulders' and all that.

We end up though with pensioners and welfare recipients taking a hit and the parents of chinless Lord Snooty's attending independent schools getting off scot-free.

As I say, I almost feel sorry for the mugs who were had-off by Red Tory. Almost.

Have some empathy wont ya...

Seriously, pretty sure many of the electorate are going to remember the optics of this too.

 

[davek]

Have some empathy wont ya...

Seriously, pretty sure many of the electorate are going to remember the optics of this too.

First impressions and all that...

 

[Wizard]

"Later, however, after publication of this story, the Treasury changed its line and said it was planning to stick by the 1 January deadline."

Let's wait and see shall we

 

[davek]

"Later, however, after publication of this story, the Treasury changed its line and said it was planning to stick by the 1 January deadline."

Let's wait and see shall we

Very naive.

That's what they do: trail their changes of policy for a few weeks or months and feed it to client hacks at newspapers such as the Guardian and then make the u-turn.

Nothing surer that the u-turning Red Tory leader makes yet another u-turn.

I suspect this has an awful lot to do with trying to quell Freebiegate. The likes of Starmer know that if you start squeezing even around the fringes of the elite institutions or institutions that supply them their personnel then you get a lot of pushback by their friends in the media.

 

[Eggs]

 

[gonetomorrow]

Labour are making a bit of a cockup of things. They're carrying on where the Tories left off.

 

[frank rizzo]

Labour are making a bit of a cockup of things. They're carrying on where the Tories left off.

Which isn't remotely surprising to those that form their opinions based on the evidence available rather than what they hope will happen.

'They're not all the same!'

They are.

 

[tsubaki]

Better not be a delay and get a grip now Starmer and Cabinet.

Doubts grow over Labour’s VAT plan for private schools

Confusion over 1 January start date as unions, tax experts and school leaders say it is unworkable

www.theguardian.com

TBF they have probably realised how much extra the MoD will have to pay for this.

 

[tsubaki]

Labour are making a bit of a cockup of things. They're carrying on where the Tories left off.

It is a direct consequence of appointing the same sort of people to the same sort of jobs. Starmer urgently needs to pick people who know what they want to do and have the ability to do it, which would rule out most MPs and all SPADs.

 

[peteblue]

Labour are making a bit of a cockup of things. They're carrying on where the Tories left off.

Oh no, they are much, much, better at cocking up than the Tories……

 

[peteblue]

That's right Dave. Absolutely.

And you and @peteblue are having a lovely time. So sweet.

Bit, by bit, day by day, comes another piece of naivety from Starmer. How did it not occur to him that by giving away our strategic base in the Indian Ocean, that this would stir up the Argentinians over the Falklands. No doubt the EU and Spain will now be thinking similar over Gibraltar. The difference being that if the Argentines invade the Falklands again, British troops and no doubt some Falkland Islanders will pay the price of his cowardly naivety with their lives….

 

[peteblue]

If only the left had coalesce behind the Greens we might have had a socially just party doing the right things by the environment, huh?

Sadly, many got turned by some shonky types affiliated with George Galloway.

Fo shame. That's what gave us the Red Tories.

….and you voting for them…….

 

[Daveysgingerlovechild]

….and you voting for them…….

Mostly Davek and you not voting. If you had voted green the country would be in a better place. Critical mass.

But no, you two either went for the idiot option or abstained. My conscience us clear, to quote Davek. I voted Greens.

You two ARE the problem. Own it.