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[Paris]

Reality has finally entered the chat for the pensioners ten years after it entered the chat for the rest of us. However, these are the cold (no pun intended) hard facts:

1.The energy cap is £200 less than last winter.

2 Pensions have risen £900 this year. The state pension is likely to rise by £460 a year next year.

3. 70% of pensioners have at least one income source in addition to a state pension.

4. 27% of pensioners are millionaires.

5. Over 50s hold 78% of the UK's property wealth.

6. 800,000 people who may be eligible are being urged by ministers to apply for pension credit. 40,000 have already applied and will be up to £4,000 per year better off.

7. Universal Credit for a 24-year-old is £311.68 per month or £3,740.16 per year, which is about one-third of a pension. So, the government isn't really targeting the poorest in our society as some people claim.

 

[peteblue]

So no then…

You and possibly millions of others don’t need this benefit, but you’re crying about it.

Why do you continually misunderstand his point, he’s pointing out the difficulty for those who don’t or can’t claim and those just above the threshold who really need it…..

 

[JimmyJeffers]

This is a wind up surely?

 

[peteblue]

Just checked. Our new Labour MP did not vote against nor did she abstain. She will definitely only be our MP for one term…..

 

[neil999]

Why do you continually misunderstand his point, he’s pointing out the difficulty for those who don’t or can’t claim and those just above the threshold who really need it…..

That is the issue with all means testing, so I assume you would be in favour of a universal basic income?

 

[Paris]

Why do you continually misunderstand his point, he’s pointing out the difficulty for those who don’t or can’t claim and those just above the threshold who really need it…..

Were you this upset when it was kids being screwed over by the two child benefit cap? (Something that Labour need to scrap ASAP BTW)

 

[peteblue]

Were you this upset when it was kids being screwed over by the two child benefit cap? (Something that Labour need to scrap ASAP BTW)

I honestly can’t remember when it was introduced. If you asked me if I would support scrapping the two child limit I would say yes….

 

[peteblue]

That is the issue with all means testing, so I assume you would be in favour of a universal basic income?

Providing it was introduced property and not the usual dogs dinner I would certainly not be against it. The benefit system appears far too complicated, a simpler and fair way of helping people is surely not beyond the capabilities of our civil service…..and while we are at it I’d like to see the removal of university fees. As a country we’ve never been richer, but it’s not balanced in terms of contributions, tax increases on large companies and the overly wealthy would help to rebalance, the problem is they always hit the majority to pay the taxes……

 

[Jebus_lives]

Providing it was introduced property and not the usual dogs dinner I would certainly not be against it. The benefit system appears far too complicated, a simpler and fair way of helping people is surely not beyond the capabilities of our civil service…..and while we are at it I’d like to see the removal of university fees. As a country we’ve never been richer, but it’s not balanced in terms of contributions, tax increases on large companies and the overly wealthy would help to rebalance, the problem is they always hit the majority to pay the taxes……

Steady on Pete, this almost sounded like a compliment.

 

[peteblue]

Oh look…

“ Rachel Reeves claimed £3,700 of taxpayer cash towards her energy bills over five years before axing winter fuel payments for millions of pensioners”…

Is this the same Rachael Reeves who complained of only earning £86K as a MP and who now, together with her Civil Servant husband, has a household income well over £325k plus expenses…

 

[neil999]

Providing it was introduced property and not the usual dogs dinner I would certainly not be against it. The benefit system appears far too complicated, a simpler and fair way of helping people is surely not beyond the capabilities of our civil service…..and while we are at it I’d like to see the removal of university fees. As a country we’ve never been richer, but it’s not balanced in terms of contributions, tax increases on large companies and the overly wealthy would help to rebalance, the problem is they always hit the majority to pay the taxes……

So socialism good stuff

 

[Sweeneytoad]

Targeting the most vulnerable in society, when did they become Labour values?

 

[Paris]

I honestly can’t remember when it was introduced. If you asked me if I would support scrapping the two child limit I would say yes….

I take that as a no, you weren’t upset then. It was 2017.

 

[Paris]

Targeting the most vulnerable in society, when did they become Labour values?

The most vulnerable aren’t the pensioners, not by a long stretch.

 

[Jebus_lives]

Oh look…

“ Rachel Reeves claimed £3,700 of taxpayer cash towards her energy bills over five years before axing winter fuel payments for millions of pensioners”…

Is this the same Rachael Reeves who complained of only earning £86K as a MP and who now, together with her Civil Servant husband, has a household income well over £325k plus expenses…

And won't she also now have lost that as she's moved to No.11?