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Poor pensioners can still get the fuel payment, no?
Yes, all the 'poor pensioners'.

There's been over 11 million pensioners receiving that winter fuel allowance for a decade or more. From this winter just 1.2 million will receive it.

Isn't it good that all those 10 million rich pensioners wont be receiving their £200/£300 this winter. That'll teach the 10 million rich pensioners from being so rich.

Jesus 'kin wept.
 
So...

  • scrapping winter fuel payments for most pensioners
  • shelving plans for social care reform
  • two child tax benefit left in place
  • axing road, rail and hospital investment as the first stage of a plan to reduce borrowing
  • budget cuts this autumn that'll affect welfare benefits

Enjoy.
 
So...

  • scrapping winter fuel payments for most pensioners
  • shelving plans for social care reform
  • two child tax benefit left in place
  • axing road, rail and hospital investment as the first stage of a plan to reduce borrowing
  • budget cuts this autumn that'll affect welfare benefits

Enjoy.
Racism defeated.

Enjoyed.
 
You;re conflating tow problems and making them into a battle over scarce resources.

As I've said: that's the language of Toryism. Divide and rule.

It;s not a zero sum game; one disadvantaged group shouldn't be backed at the expense of the other.

That's why I support public sector unions getting the wage increases and it's why I support pensioners getting winter fuel payments.
I wasn't saying that at all D. I was pointing out that's the narrative and what's happening. Which is problematic.
 
Yes, all the 'poor pensioners'.

There's been over 11 million pensioners receiving that winter fuel allowance for a decade or more. From this winter just 1.2 million will receive it.

Isn't it good that all those 10 million rich pensioners wont be receiving their £200/£300 this winter. That'll teach the 10 million rich pensioners from being so rich.

Jesus 'kin wept.
Surely that's the point?

The people who need help get it, the 1s who don't, don't.
 
As a symbolic gesture of this new progressive inter-generational politics focused on caring, sharing, mutual understanding and fighting he one true common enemy (Starmer)...

I'd like a photograph of @davek @Spadge Vernacular @peteblue and @Rita_Poon hugging it out!

Tory, Red Tory, Socialist - all coming together to denounce inequality, unfairness and Keir Starmer.

*launches fireworks*
 
As a symbolic gesture of this new progressive inter-generational politics focused on caring, sharing, mutual understanding and fighting he one true common enemy (Starmer)...

I'd like a photograph of @davek @Spadge Vernacular @peteblue and @Rita_Poon hugging it out!

Tory, Red Tory, Socialist - all coming together to denounce inequality, unfairness and Keir Starmer.

*launches fireworks*

No idea which is which, these days.
 
""They are casting their problems at society. And, you know, there's no such thing as society. There are individual men and women and there are families. And no government can do anything except through people, and people must look after themselves first."

It's her, it's been her since she sleazed her way in with promises of crushing the poor for eternity. Over and over again, it is "I'm alright Jack!".

Winter aint arrived yet, warm front was hammered under cameron in 2013, yet...

  • 46% of children in families with three or more children were in poverty, up from 36% in 2011/12

Marcus Rashford went to battle over free school meals for the poorest kids, and eventually won a long protracted war where the light he and others shone onto the treatment of the most vulnerable in society eventually embarrassed the tory scum into relenting and finally feeding hungry children.

Where were the dynamic duo then though? Not a peep, as usual. To busy washing their tights and counting their money.
You missed out the very next line in her speech "It’s our duty to look after ourselves and then to look after our neighbour."

It's often used to suggest we should all be selfish arseholes, when that's not really what she's saying at all. Instead, she's saying that rather than expecting the state to care for those around us, we should also step up to the plate ourselves.
 
"From each according to their ability, to each according to their need".

- a slogan popularised by some 19th century Red Tory or other
Not that Dave has ever made this point, but advocates of universal basic income would argue that the universal nature of that payment tends to work in part because the costs associated with administering a means tested system are often pretty large, so if you strip out the admin costs you have more money to go around.
 
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