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[davmaher]

I read this story in the Guardian today. I'm a bit confused: how does one "lie" about a speeding ticket 3x when it was a camera-issued ticket?

Also, she seems like she suffers from delusions of grandeur.

The camera photo was from the rear of the car, so you couldn't see who was driving. She claimed initially that it was a Russian bloke who had been a tenant of hers but it turned out he was back home in Russia at the time of the offence. I think she then got her brother to say it was him. Her campaign manager then came forward to say that she was at his house on the night of the offence and she arrived and left on her own. The speed camera was just up the road from his house. I can't understand why she couldn't just take the fine and points (maybe she was already on 9) and why she kept on digging a bigger hole for herself. It looks like she will now be kicked out of Parliament at some point and probably lose her licence to practice law. On the delusions of grandeur point, she compared herself with Jesus, Moses and Daniel in her comments after sentencing.

 

[verreauxi]

The camera photo was from the rear of the car, so you couldn't see who was driving. She claimed initially that it was a Russian bloke who had been a tenant of hers but it turned out he was back home in Russia at the time of the offence. I think she then got her brother to say it was him. Her campaign manager then came forward to say that she was at his house on the night of the offence and she arrived and left on her own. The speed camera was just up the road from his house. I can't understand why she couldn't just take the fine and points (maybe she was already on 9) and why she kept on digging a bigger hole for herself. It looks like she will now be kicked out of Parliament at some point and probably lose her licence to practice law. On the delusions of grandeur point, she compared herself with Jesus, Moses and Daniel in her comments after sentencing.

Thanks. As for the comparisons to Jesus for getting a speeding ticket, one can only guess who she'd compare herself with upon being convicted of stealing a pack of gum.

 

[tommytowne]

She claimed someone else was driving, but the police established he was out of the country, that her phone was near the camera when it was triggered, and that she had been in the car visiting a colleague around that time. God knows on what basis the appeal will be.

I understand that she is being allowed to continue receiving her MP salary as it is her "only means of income"
I'm not au fait with such matters but would any ordinary Joe be able to draw a salary while banged up?

 

[tsubaki]

I understand that she is being allowed to continue receiving her MP salary as it is her "only means of income"
I'm not au fait with such matters but would any ordinary Joe be able to draw a salary while banged up?

If that was the contract they’d signed, yes. A three month sentence isn’t enough to immediately get rid of her as an MP, just to bring a recall petition (but even that can’t happen until her appeal fails).

 

[roydo]

I understand that she is being allowed to continue receiving her MP salary as it is her "only means of income"
I'm not au fait with such matters but would any ordinary Joe be able to draw a salary while banged up?

Arsenal paid Tony Adams when he was inside. Would hazard a guess we did with Dunc as well.

 

[tommytowne]

If that was the contract they’d signed, yes. A three month sentence isn’t enough to immediately get rid of her as an MP, just to bring a recall petition (but even that can’t happen until her appeal fails).

With all that's going on with Brexit it seems there isn't time to sack her. The party have sacked her, but the deselection process is the only way she can be removed.

 

[Harryflashman]

Arsenal paid Tony Adams when he was inside. Would hazard a guess we did with Dunc as well.

Maybe slightly different don’t you think because In both cases i’d suggest they wanted to . if they’d wanted to gross misconduct them I don’t think they’d have had too much trouble but they were valuable assets.

As regards this mp though as much as i’d Like to see her get nothing you can’t retrospectively change legislation and it seems she’s entitled to it under current guidelines. Whatever gnashing of teeth goes on , if she’s entitled then there isn’t much that can be done .

 

[roydo]

Maybe slightly different don’t you think Bev’s In both cases of suggest because they wanted to though . if they’d wanted to gross misconduct then I don’t think they’d have had too much trouble but they were valuable assets.

As regards this mp though as much as i’d Like to see her get nothing you can’t retrospectively change legislation and it seems she’s entitled to it under current guidelines. Whatever gnashing of teeth goes on , if she’s entitled then there isn’t much that can be done .

MPs have a long held tradition for having different rules to mere mortals like you and me mate.

 

[Harryflashman]

MPs have a long held tradition for having different rules to mere mortals like you and me mate.

No argument, I’m just saying if the rules are then it’s tough to complain

 

[PhilM]

I think it was a consequence of her brother pleading guilty - she couldn’t be sentenced for more than him, and he plead guilty (and committed other offences).

As you say though, for an MP and a solicitor to get that for this is very lenient.

While I can accept that her brother pleading for three counts may have played a part in any for of mitigation, her own failure to admit guilt coupled with her role...

...makes the sentence shall we say, questionable; compare it to Huhne for example and what he and his wife received. I can only think her illness play a big part.

There's a good chance she'll lose her seat (well, she should) and mix her incurable illness, it may have seemed extreme to then give her custodial for a while.

However, I expect that a buck from the Dingle or wherever wouldn't be given the same level of compassion by the judge.

 

[The binman chronicles]

Well that is Corbyn done for seeing really he is just a massive spoon:

Uri Geller says he will use 'telepathic powers' to stop Jeremy Corbyn becoming PM

 

[Aberblue]

And that makes it right does it? Dianne Abbott HAS been racially abused and vilified continually in her political career.....it is a fact that she stands up for herself against these slurs and abuse......at least she is not a paedo protector is she?

I agree that Abbot has been villified, and no doubt some of it is based on her sex and colour. However, she has many obvious shortcomings and weaknesses which make her a ready target for attacks from political opponents. These shortcomings have nothing to do with her race or gender. She speaks in a patronising tone, will never admit mistakes (she "mis-spoke" in that car crash interview about police numbers, apparently), had made very large expenses claims as an MP, sent her son to a private school, and has made constant gaffes in interviews. If she is worthy of a place in the shadow cabinet (let alone shadowing one of the most important offices of state) the pool of talent on the Labour benches must be very shallow indeed. The fact is, of course, that she's there because of loyalty to Corbyn rather than any merit.

 

[summerisle]

I agree that Abbot has been villified, and no doubt some of it is based on her sex and colour. However, she has many obvious shortcomings and weaknesses which make her a ready target for attacks from political opponents. These shortcomings have nothing to do with her race or gender. She speaks in a patronising tone, will never admit mistakes (she "mis-spoke" in that car crash interview about police numbers, apparently), had made very large expenses claims as an MP, sent her son to a private school, and has made constant gaffes in interviews. If she is worthy of a place in the shadow cabinet (let alone shadowing one of the most important offices of state) the pool of talent on the Labour benches must be very shallow indeed. The fact is, of course, that she's there because of loyalty to Corbyn rather than any merit.

You're speaking about the majority of the Tories there.

 

[TopBalconyView]

And that makes it right does it? Dianne Abbott HAS been racially abused and vilified continually in her political career.....it is a fact that she stands up for herself against these slurs and abuse......at least she is not a paedo protector is she?

Dianne Abbott is a moron of the highest order, not defending the racial abuse, that's pathetic and comes from the uneducated aspect of our society. But she is a complete and utter fool.

 

[TopBalconyView]

The state of the Labour Party today is the reason the Tories are running riot. Corbyn is a complete and utter buffoon. We need a strong leader to take these Tory privileged bstards to task.