Hinchcliffe's Corner
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Hmmmm, not quite mate.
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Hinchcliffe's Corner
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We're both correct.
mightymoyes
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as if we didn't know it already
I'm always wary when these clips and edited down to literally just the comment. Absolutely no context whatsoever and I've had a look around and can't find a single story or another tweet mentioning it. Not saying this isn't the exact context he meant but always a bit suss when presented like this.
mightymoyes
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was also suspicious myself but its a highly believable statement in Lammys case
He was speaking in the US at a "Future of the Atlantic Alliance" talk 2 weeks ago at the (apparently right wing) Hudson Institute in his capacity as the likely next UK Foreign Sec. The context of the quote is in how he'd approach a relationship with Donald Trump if he wins in November, and he claimed to be able to find common ground as a "Good Christian Boy" and that "there are places I can be described, and have been descibed, as small-c conservative".
The institute's own channel has the full talk, I found the relevant bit around the 50:50 mark.
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I don't like what Lammy said there, but I don't let it get to me personally , because:
a) He's purposefully playing up to his audience there in burnishing his right-wing credentials - "Don't be scared of me, your incoming liaison to the UK, I'm not some red-under-the-bed Commie socialist".
b) Foreign secretary is the least important of the 4 'great offices of state' in the UK when it comes to running the country, so Lammy's personal left/right axis is going to be barely relevant in how Starmer's cabinet governs anyway.
c) I fully expect numerous cabinet reshuffles in a hypothetical Starmer first year, as the current shadow ministers are almost entirely untested at actually having to run government departments, and might end up being total failures (either in competence or ability to work with No 10).
It's not remotely worth getting worked up over, not that that seems to ever stop yourself.
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Also, I accept, even if I don't like it, that there are certain careerist MPs that plough enough of a centrist furrow that they could feasilby operate in either of the main 2 parties (or the Lib Dems) and that their primary goal in their political journey is to be in power to take advantages of all the influence that brings. Politics is lucrative, especially for those that are corruptible or can park their principles to one side, and no doubt will continue to attract that sort of 'political class'.
Case in point, I used to work with a lad who was always desperate to become an MP, I knew him when it was clear that Cameron was likely leading the Tories back to power and at the time he was a full-throated Conservative in the break room, later stood for local election for the Tories a couple of times unsuccessfully, was Chairman of the the local 'Young Conservatives' and still has articles up in his name on ConservativeHome from ~10 years ago. Now with Labour back on the up, he's managed to become a Labour Councillor and is a deputy editor on one of the big Labour news sites. He's still only in his early 30s and I fully expect him try for Commons seats over the next 20 years, certainly if either of the two current Luton Labour MPs steps down for any reason.
From what he posts these days (daily), Dave would absolutely adore him actually, but he's the very essence of a 'Tory in disguise' flying in under the radar, sensing a whiff of power. At least Lammy is saying what he said out loud.
Case in point, I used to work with a lad who was always desperate to become an MP, I knew him when it was clear that Cameron was likely leading the Tories back to power and at the time he was a full-throated Conservative in the break room, later stood for local election for the Tories a couple of times unsuccessfully, was Chairman of the the local 'Young Conservatives' and still has articles up in his name on ConservativeHome from ~10 years ago. Now with Labour back on the up, he's managed to become a Labour Councillor and is a deputy editor on one of the big Labour news sites. He's still only in his early 30s and I fully expect him try for Commons seats over the next 20 years, certainly if either of the two current Luton Labour MPs steps down for any reason.
From what he posts these days (daily), Dave would absolutely adore him actually, but he's the very essence of a 'Tory in disguise' flying in under the radar, sensing a whiff of power. At least Lammy is saying what he said out loud.
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Yarrgh
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A pedant of this parish.
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