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[tsubaki]

Keir Starmer vows Britain's nuclear deterrent is safe in his hands

Sir Keir describes his belief in Nato and the UK's nuclear deterrent as 'unshakeable' - and says national security always comes first under his leadership.

www.dailymail.co.uk

Committing to 2.5% of the UK GDP annually = £60 billion.

But they cant find cash for ending the two child benefit cap which would cost £1.3 billion and raise half a million families out of poverty.

Glad to see you back on CA, dave

 

[davek]

Glad to see you back on CA, dave

Thanks mate.

 

[Goat]

Glad to see you back on CA, dave

No.

 

[JimmyJeffers]

Keir Starmer vows Britain's nuclear deterrent is safe in his hands

Sir Keir describes his belief in Nato and the UK's nuclear deterrent as 'unshakeable' - and says national security always comes first under his leadership.

www.dailymail.co.uk

Committing to 2.5% of the UK GDP annually = £60 billion.

But they cant find cash for ending the two child benefit cap which would cost £1.3 billion and raise half a million families out of poverty.

Austerity never ended and there is no intention of doing so,

 

[orchard]

Keir Starmer vows Britain's nuclear deterrent is safe in his hands

Sir Keir describes his belief in Nato and the UK's nuclear deterrent as 'unshakeable' - and says national security always comes first under his leadership.

www.dailymail.co.uk

Committing to 2.5% of the UK GDP annually = £60 billion.

But they cant find cash for ending the two child benefit cap which would cost £1.3 billion and raise half a million families out of poverty.

No wonder the Greens are falling further behind Labour. Typical 'make love not war' bullcrap. We won't get anywhere without big nukes and a strong leader with no ethics willing to back up his threats to smaller nations with our blood if need be.

 

[Bruce Wayne]

Austerity never ended and there is no intention of doing so,

I don't see how we can say there's austerity when a) the tax take is the biggest in 80 years or so, and b) the government had a deficit of about £130bn in 22/23. If they're taxing a [Poor language removed] load and spending way more than they get from taxation, it's hard to see how that is in any way austere. We can argue that they're not spending money well, but that's not austerity.

 

[Rita_Poon]

I don't see how we can say there's austerity when a) the tax take is the biggest in 80 years or so, and b) the government had a deficit of about £130bn in 22/23. If they're taxing a [Poor language removed] load and spending way more than they get from taxation, it's hard to see how that is in any way austere. We can argue that they're not spending money well, but that's not austerity.

They are paying their pals 30+% profit on every deal/contract. They aren't interested in value for money, the only value the profit, however it is skimmed. They are a parasite.

 

[Bruce Wayne]

They are paying their pals 30+% profit on every deal/contract. They aren't interested in value for money, the only value the profit, however it is skimmed. They are a parasite.

I've no doubt there is an element of cronyism but it's hard to believe that contributes the £130bn deficit, much less the rest of the trillion or so government budget. I mean are we seriously expecting Labour to get in and there to magically be a surplus?

 

[Rita_Poon]

30% of 1 trillion is 30% of 1000 billion. So 300 billion. There has seemingly been no care in terms of getting value, only giving contracts to those that somehow then end up as record donors to the party awarding said contracts. It's as though the entire show is rigged and the haves just keep on taking.

Great if you are part of the show, but not so great if you're part of the masses shafted by it and left to foot the bill.

'Accountability' is a very dirty word in the uk.

 

[orchard]

I don't see how we can say there's austerity when a) the tax take is the biggest in 80 years or so, and b) the government had a deficit of about £130bn in 22/23. If they're taxing a [Poor language removed] load and spending way more than they get from taxation, it's hard to see how that is in any way austere. We can argue that they're not spending money well, but that's not austerity.

I know mate. These middle class lefties think that the tax goes on vanity projects, utility skimming, loan interest and bailing out the corpos, yanno the usual tankie [Poor language removed] like. You and I know it all goes to a couple of work-shy single mum grifters in Wolverhampton.

 

[NilSatisOptimum]

No wonder the Greens are falling further behind Labour. Typical 'make love not war' bullcrap. We won't get anywhere without big nukes and a strong leader with no ethics willing to back up his threats to smaller nations with our blood if need be.

Libya and Ukraine both surrendered their nuclear weapons its ended up a great success for some, just not the citizens of Libya and Ukraine.

 

[orchard]

Libya and Ukraine both surrendered their nuclear weapons its ended up a great success for some, just not the citizens of Libya and Ukraine.

That's why i'm keeping hold of mine mate.

 

[JimmyJeffers]

I don't see how we can say there's austerity when a) the tax take is the biggest in 80 years or so, and b) the government had a deficit of about £130bn in 22/23. If they're taxing a [Poor language removed] load and spending way more than they get from taxation, it's hard to see how that is in any way austere. We can argue that they're not spending money well, but that's not austerity.

What I’m referring to in this instance, is that the reduction in government expenditure towards council services and welfare in the name of austerity back in 2010 has never been reinstated or recovered back to the previous levels.
Things like the bedroom tax and 2 child benefit cap still exist and will remain whilst councils are required to allocate more resources to key areas like child social care and homelessness, which have risen, in part to the fallout from the austerity measures.

 

[Bruce Wayne]

I know mate. These middle class lefties think that the tax goes on vanity projects, utility skimming, loan interest and bailing out the corpos, yanno the usual tankie [Poor language removed] like. You and I know it all goes to a couple of work-shy single mum grifters in Wolverhampton.

Huh?

 

[Bruce Wayne]

What I’m referring to in this instance, is that the reduction in government expenditure towards council services and welfare in the name of austerity back in 2010 has never been reinstated or recovered back to the previous levels.
Things like the bedroom tax and 2 child benefit cap still exist and will remain whilst councils are required to allocate more resources to key areas like child social care and homelessness, which have risen, in part to the fallout from the austerity measures.

I don't doubt it. This is the quandry. We're being taxed more than ever before and it's not even close to covering expenditure that is in many instances not even close to delivering the kind of services people want. I know we like to think it's Boris and his chums smoking fifties at Checkers, I'm not sure Labour coming in and simply "not being bent" will fix things. I mean debt interest payments alone are currently around 10% of all government spending (or £112bn). Throw in pensions and that's 20% of the government budget gone in an instant, and, assuming you don't think pensioner largesse is throwing money at mates, those are items that can't be blamed on cronyism. The ~£300bn on procurement undoubtedly does, and there has been plenty on the poor value for money the government has achieved with that spending. How much is down to Tory stuff and how much is civil service stuff I don't know. I suppose we'll find out when Labour get in.