The Johnny 'Colossus' Heitinga Appreciation Thread

Keep or get rid?

  • Keep

    Votes: 24 19.8%
  • Get rid

    Votes: 97 80.2%

  • Total voters
    121
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Blackburn L 0 - 1
All the possesion, no substance playing that stupid crab we play through the midfield.

Wolves D 1 - 1
All the possesion, no substance playing that stupid crab we play through the midfield.

Aston Villa L 0 - 1
All the possesion, no substance playing that stupid crab we play through the midfield.

Newcastle L 0 - 1
out battled in midfield, outplayed, Newcastle cut off supply to the left, no substance, continue to play that stupid crab we play through the midfield.

David Moyes cannot change a game!!!

HAHA you've just been given two examples off the top of my head - which proves he can you clown!

BOTH games we were drawing until he introduced changes too!

Everton v Manchester United 2009/2010 season

Gosling on as a sub. Goal.

Rodwell on as a sub. Goal.

Everton v Liverpool (FA Cup 2008/2009 season)

Van Der Meyde (pisshead) On. Assist.
Gosling on. Goal.

Grow a set indeed.
 
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HAHA you've just been given two examples off the top of my head - which proves he can you clown!

BOTH games we were drawing until he introduced changes too!



Grow a set indeed.


He cannot change a game....

Plan A or nothing....he can make subs that will obviously have an impact every now and then but when do you rarely ever see him change his tactics...I seen him go for it once last season against spurs at home when after we went two down. Thats what im talking about. Not just a straight substiution!!
 
He cannot change a game....

Plan A or nothing....he can make subs that will obviously have an impact every now and then but when do you rarely ever see him change his tactics...I seen him go for it once last season against spurs at home when after we went two down. Thats what im talking about. Not just a straight substiution!!

I've just shown you he can.

You'll just continue to deny it though.
 
I've just shown you he can.

You'll just continue to deny it though.

Bit like how you deny that he has favourites who he plays regardless of form or out of position-ness. Despite it being proven time and time again.

Unlike the "fact" that just because occasionally a sub he has bought on scores a goal or provides a cross.

Thats not good tactical management of substitutions thats just luck, sometimes it looks good others it doesn't.

Show me plenty of examples of where Moyes subs have changed the way we played and rescued games we looked like losing by change of formation/tactics. Rather than like for like.

Any manager could bring on AVDM, and any player could put in an average cross that resulted in a deflected goal.

We needed a sub on Sat that would of improved our attacking play and stopped Newcastle outdoing us in midfield. Didn't happen. Well ok Yak for Beckford did improve things but thats more because you don't play a league 1 striker up front in the premierleague on his own.

And if you do you play the team the correct way so as to make chances for him. That didn't happen.

Gotta laugh at you saying Moyes will get tough and change things. Maybe Osman will become the best right midfielder in the world and you don't post annoying drivel.

But lets face it, none of those thinsg are gonna happen and you're blind to it.
 
Bit like how you deny that he has favourites who he plays regardless of form or out of position-ness. Despite it being proven time and time again.

Unlike the "fact" that just because occasionally a sub he has bought on scores a goal or provides a cross.

Thats not good tactical management of substitutions thats just luck, sometimes it looks good others it doesn't.

Show me plenty of examples of where Moyes subs have changed the way we played and rescued games we looked like losing by change of formation/tactics. Rather than like for like.

Any manager could bring on AVDM, and any player could put in an average cross that resulted in a deflected goal.

We needed a sub on Sat that would of improved our attacking play and stopped Newcastle outdoing us in midfield. Didn't happen. Well ok Yak for Beckford did improve things but thats more because you don't play a league 1 striker up front in the premierleague on his own.

And if you do you play the team the correct way so as to make chances for him. That didn't happen.

Gotta laugh at you saying Moyes will get tough and change things. Maybe Osman will become the best right midfielder in the world and you don't post annoying drivel.

But lets face it, none of those thinsg are gonna happen and you're blind to it.

Abit like you you mean?

So now you've added "Bit like how you deny that he has favourites who he plays regardless of form or out of position-ness. Despite it being proven time and time again."

Is this the latest thing?

It suggests to me that he's trying to find the best system. It'll change.

Of course in the meantime it'll be the likes of you posting the annoying drivel lad.
 
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Blackburn L 0 - 1
All the possesion, no substance playing that stupid crab we play through the midfield.

Wolves D 1 - 1
All the possesion, no substance playing that stupid crab we play through the midfield.

Aston Villa L 0 - 1
All the possesion, no substance playing that stupid crab we play through the midfield.

Newcastle L 0 - 1
out battled in midfield, outplayed, Newcastle cut off supply to the left, no substance, continue to play that stupid crab we play through the midfield.

David Moyes cannot change a game!!!

Damn the crabs. Damn ALL the crabs!!!!
 
Abit like you you mean?

So now you've added "Bit like how you deny that he has favourites who he plays regardless of form or out of position-ness. Despite it being proven time and time again."

Is this the latest thing?

It suggests to me that he's trying to find the best system. It'll change.

Of course in the meantime it'll be the likes of you posting the annoying drivel lad.

^IRONY ALERT^


He's only been here 5 minutes and already it seems like Heitinga wants out. Drop him to the ressies with the rest that dont care.
 

He can't change a game is something that lots of other fans throw at their manager, it's a symptom of the internet frenzied ages of wannabe Champ Manager beauts.

He went for it at half time on Saturday bringing on Yakubu and Coleman, it didnt work as we were still [Poor language removed]. Granted, what the [Poor language removed] Osman was doing on the right of mid I don't know but lay off you bad lemons.
 
HAHA you've just been given two examples off the top of my head - which proves he can you clown!

BOTH games we were drawing until he introduced changes too!

We should have been winning the games in the first place not drawing them ffs, and would have been with the right team selection. Notice you have changed your tune in that you are now criticising his team selections.
 
My point about the above mentioned players being shiite is they should not be starting in our 1st eleven week in week out. Moyes is the man who picks them week in week out...It is not through them players giving a lack of effort thats the problem, the problem is they are not good enough to make a difference, we have better players in the squad that moyes overlooks or plays out of position week in week out to play these players....

My Point is Moyes' lack of balls or ability to change a game is killing us.
He is the one who should be the point of focus, not the players "lack of effort"

Said last season we should get shut of Hibbo, Osman, Neville, and Distin buit6 nothing has changed, keeps playing his faves.
 
He can't change a game is something that lots of other fans throw at their manager, it's a symptom of the internet frenzied ages of wannabe Champ Manager beauts.

He went for it at half time on Saturday bringing on Yakubu and Coleman, it didnt work as we were still [Poor language removed]. Granted, what the [Poor language removed] Osman was doing on the right of mid I don't know but lay off you bad lemons.

THIS. Omg this.

Chico's summed up the bad lemons on the bad websites in one paragraph.

Neil Steele. Thats you lad.
 
It suggests to me that he's trying to find the best system. It'll change.

Will it? notice so far this season in trying to find that winning system keeps picking Distin, Hibbo, Osman and playing players out of position. How many attempts does he need to find that system? Another 5 games happen or 10.

Something not right at Finch farm and Moyes needs to fix it. It is his responsibility.
 
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