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[zzr45]

You have never been on strike then mate? It's not a fecking bonanza for the people who do so. If the union has a beef about conditions of service, pay, pensions etc, once negotiations have come to an impasse what should the union do...send a strongly worded letter to the employer? What else do workers do? Please advise me on this....it's the only weapon that workers have against their employers...guess you are anti trade union ...I may be wrong but if so then no probs...

The strikes on Northern Rail were done in a way that by and large, your average commuter wasn't too badly affected. Weekend services were affected so NR lost out income on those. The strikers gained sympathy with those who knew about the strikes but didn't go so far as to potentially affect people's ability to put food on their own tables.

For me, this bill looks like it's ensuring that this becomes a bit more of the norm. There'd be a basic service running which would let people get where they need to, but revenue streams for the company beyond that would be cut off.

 

[Bruce Wayne]

That’s not particularly fair and you know it. I had a mate who was a fireman who went on strike. Said he hated having to do it but explained it was the ultimate last resort due to pay and conditions. They were paid less than other emergency services and had to deal with all sorts of horrors. Used to get kids on estates setting fires then chucking bricks at them when they turned up. They had no protection.
For many it is the last tool for bargaining.

Makes me wonder why the public sector is always held up as holier than thou, especially when it comes to the NHS, as staff seem to do nothing but complain about working conditions.

 

[Old Blue 2]

No, I've never had to blackmail my employer to secure better wages for myself.

Translation: I'm alright, Jack, feck the rest of you.

Summary: Bruce hasn't the first idea of why people go on strike in the first place. Why else would he call it this: "...I've never had to blackmail my employer...".

A prime example of an upper-class toff...

 

[ramacca]

No, I've never had to blackmail my employer to secure better wages for myself.

Who are you employed by?

 

[Paris]

So much this.

 

[scratchnsurf]

Well duh. Who else are they doing it for? They want more money. You might say that's fine, but lets not dress this up as altruism.

Utter rubbish Bruce. Whilst the issue of pay is relevant if you want to attract and retain the best people to be teachers, the people who actually are teachers now are very much altruistic and their concerns are for the profession and the education system itself. As others have pointed out, if you wanted to be well off, being a teacher in the UK isn't going to get you there.

 

[Paris]

I really thought this was going to be about his handshake.

I've never met him so I can't comment but I imagine it's quite stern.

 

[Catfish Blues]

I've never met him so I can't comment but I imagine it's quite stern.

If I remember rightly ( and it was a long time ago ), it was firm and lengthy.













As was his handshake.

 

[Khalekan]

I hope by the time of the next Election these Exit Polls are banned.

It completely kills the excitement from the moment voting closes.

 

[Blues Harp]

The strikes on Northern Rail were done in a way that by and large, your average commuter wasn't too badly affected. Weekend services were affected so NR lost out income on those. The strikers gained sympathy with those who knew about the strikes but didn't go so far as to potentially affect people's ability to put food on their own tables.

For me, this bill looks like it's ensuring that this becomes a bit more of the norm. There'd be a basic service running which would let people get where they need to, but revenue streams for the company beyond that would be cut off.

You have never been on strike then? Ok the idea of striking is the only weapon that workers have against exploitation by the employers....thats the idea. Both parties are against strikes, Labour and tories, no matter what the former say....if Labour were in power then there would be similar, but watered down moves to pander to their centrist followers.

 

[JimmyJeffers]

Makes me wonder why the public sector is always held up as holier than thou, especially when it comes to the NHS, as staff seem to do nothing but complain about working conditions.

Well now that’s a different argument altogether. I always imagine in larger organisations you would feel you have less autonomy or control. Workers will complain about conditions in both the private and public sector. The people I know who are happiest in the private sector tend to work for small and innovative organisations.
I dunno enough about the NHS and working conditions to really comment on it to be honest. I do know it’s harder to get an appointment with a GP these days which I’ve happily blamed on the tories.

 

[peteblue]

Translation: I'm alright, Jack, feck the rest of you.

Summary: Bruce hasn't the first idea of why people go on strike in the first place. Why else would he call it this: "...I've never had to blackmail my employer...".

A prime example of an upper-class toff...

I‘ve always had @Bruce Wayne down as an upper class toff. Or just maybe he talks a bit of sense every now and again....

 

[OnlyBlueWillDo]

The Dirty War on the NHS, ITV 1 now, 2 hour documentary on how the Tories are destroying it.

Funny how ITV air this after the election isn't it.

 

[peteblue]

I hope by the time of the next Election these Exit Polls are banned.

It completely kills the excitement from the moment voting closes.

it’s not supposed to be entertainment, it’s about how the country is managed....

 

[peteblue]

I perhaps posted this in the wrong thread, but it’s worth a repeat..

”I’m just amazed that a bunch of losers, who believed that Corbyn was the second coming, a man who was going to lead Labour to a GE victory, have the brass neck to continue saying similar. Guys , you got beaten, you got absolutely wiped out, we (a few who know the score) told you that over and over, but no, Corbyn was the man. So now that it’s over and your hero has proven to be what he always was, a terrorist supporting Marxist unloved by the U.K. populace, perhaps you could show a degree of humility as you look forward to 20 years of Conservative rule”......