8.74 million pupils being disrupted by 430,000 teachers (roughly speaking). Is that for the many, not the few @NilSatisOptimum ?
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8.74 million pupils being disrupted by 430,000 teachers (roughly speaking). Is that for the many, not the few @NilSatisOptimum ?
Blues Harp
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You have never been on strike then mate? It's not a fecking bonanza for the people who do so. If the union has a beef about conditions of service, pay, pensions etc, once negotiations have come to an impasse what should the union do...send a strongly worded letter to the employer? What else do workers do? Please advise me on this....it's the only weapon that workers have against their employers...guess you are anti trade union ...I may be wrong but if so then no probs...
dannyboy
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Don't forget the parents who will have to take a day off work too!
Blues Harp
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Never been on strike then mate?....Jesus wept
Frick them
They voted for the Tories
dannyboy
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I think the idea is that workers should just keep their mouth shut and be grateful they have a job to begin with.
Demoralised professions, underpaid staff, people leaving in their droves. Welcome to public sector Tory Britain. Don't strike though. That's selfish.
As a parent I have absolutely no issue with this.
No, I've never had to blackmail my employer to secure better wages for myself.
dannyboy
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I can imagine most wouldn't mate. They probably get more angry about their kids being taught by an over stressed, exhausted teacher than the odd strike day.
Well duh. Who else are they doing it for? They want more money. You might say that's fine, but lets not dress this up as altruism.
dannyboy
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I think strikes in the teaching profession run way beyond more money. In fact, I'd say that is actually low on the priority list. If you were that interested in growing your bank account you just wouldn't be a teacher in England.
Nothing like aTory Government pitting different workers against each other...
That’s not particularly fair and you know it. I had a mate who was a fireman who went on strike. Said he hated having to do it but explained it was the ultimate last resort due to pay and conditions. They were paid less than other emergency services and had to deal with all sorts of horrors. Used to get kids on estates setting fires then chucking bricks at them when they turned up. They had no protection.
For many it is the last tool for bargaining.
Not once heard a teacher complain about money. Both anecdotally and in the arguments presented by unions, teachers are concerned about standards, safety and pupils.
Catfish Blues
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Haha, this is surely bait ?
But heh, I'll bite !
If you're lucky enough to be doing a fairly specialised, or skilled job, then you're normally in the driving seat when it comes to pay negogiations. If you're not, then your employer will be looking to sweat their assets ( including their employees ) as much as they can, so they can maintain or increase their margins
Most collective bargaining has a bit of give and take on both sides and doesn't get to the point where strike action is threatened. When strike action does actually get threatened, that normally focuses management mind a bit, and they give a little more.
Very occassionally, strike action actually happens, and sometimes that's the fault of the managements intransigence, sometimes it's the unions, but often it's a bit of both. Plainly some unions overstep the mark on this sometimes, but so do management.
If you remove someone's right to strike, then that means the management is immediately at an advantage when it comes to negogiations. Without a clearly defined mechanism for an independent third party to make a judgement on a union's claim, whether it be pay or more general working conditions, then removing peoples right to withhold labour isn't far off withholding a basic human right.
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