Current Affairs The General Election

[OnlyBlueWillDo]

So seeing this didn't work do Labour need to move further to the left to make itself electable?

They just need to bin Corbyn, he's very unpopular, the smear campaign against him has worked a treat, just look at who our PM is, how the hell is he more popular than Corbyn.

 

[Connor]

To all the tories on here (dûck off)
To all the centrist shîthouses on here (dûck off)

To all my beautiful left wing muckers on here (keep fighting the good fight)

Solidarity.

We will offer hope again – especially to those who need it most. Our day will come.

 

[dannyboy]

So seeing this didn't work do Labour need to move further to the left to make itself electable?

Join the Lib Dems in the centre ground? How´s that going for them tonight?

 

[Tubey]

Join the Lib Dems in the centre ground? How´s that going for them tonight?

Not a good comparison. The Lib Dems could have the most popular leader and policies imaginable and not form government due to our electoral system. It's a two horse race and one horse decided to lie down and die at the starting line.

 

[JobForTheMoyes]

Heidi Allen is a strong yes.

Used to work with Royal Mail, so plenty of experience with bulging sacks!

 

[Kurt.]

Can Priti put her shoes on correctly?

You really are one sad tosser

 

[Jebus_lives]

So seeing this didn't work do Labour need to move further to the left to make itself electable?

• Promise less, it's more credible.
• Keep popular policies that help people and drop the left field ones.
• Accept Brexit. The Tories have to deliver it now and all the associated mess that comes with it.
• Stop seeing any dissenting voice as needing to be purged or hammered down.

 

[dandydan]

You really are one sad tosser

keep voting for racist, anti semetics. And feel good about it.
mwah xoxoxox

 

[Wat Tyler]

And that means you have learnt little. Yes Brexit has caused a abnormality in all of this. But that is just a cover up, the majority do not want what Labour are offering. Or at least don't believe it is possible.

The audacity of a shithouse scrotum like u using the greatest keeper you will see to attack me. Neville a left wing gem.


Don’t you dare use his name u rat

 

[dannyboy]

Not a good comparison. The Lib Dems could have the most popular leader and policies imaginable and not form government due to our electoral system. It's a two horse race and one horse decided to lie down and die at the starting line.

Fair point, but this fabled centre ground as an election winner is a complete nonstarter to me. This type of candidate plays to you because you take an active interest in politics, I struggle to see their sell to someone in a Brexit town. It´s a tough ask.

 

[The binman chronicles]

Join the Lib Dems in the centre ground? How´s that going for them tonight?

They've got Swinson for a leader, how did you think it would go? Just like Corbyn being divisive has lost votes so is the same goes for her. Brexit has cost votes for sure but this is the worst Conservative party in memory and the party isn't going to get close.

You can make excuses or you can make changes. Without Scotland Labour will probably never get a majority as a left wing party unless some biblical or massive war changes the fabric of the nation.

 

[The binman chronicles]

The audacity of a shithouse scrotum like u using the greatest keeper you will see to attack me. Neville a left wing gem.


Don’t you dare use his name u rat

Diddums mate. You fail to see the fact I'm on the same side as you, but I unlike you am pragmatic enough to think what can we do to make Labour win power.

 

[dannyboy]

They've got Swinson for a leader, how did you think it would go? Just like Corbyn being divisive has lost votes so is the same goes for her. Brexit has cost votes for sure but this is the worst Conservative party in memory and the party isn't going to get close.

You can make excuses or you can make changes. Without Scotland Labour will probably never get a majority as a left wing party unless some biblical or massive war changes the fabric of the nation.

lol

This is definitely true unfortunately. Not even sure we´ve got much of a chance as a centrist party either tbh. England is a very conservative country.

 

[dandydan]

Workington gone.

 

[Tubey]

Fair point, but this fabled centre ground as an election winner is a complete nonstarter to me. This type of candidate plays to you because you take an active interest in politics, I struggle to see their sell to someone in a Brexit town. It´s a tough ask.

It's fairly simple - you take one position or the other.

Labour's Brexit position, as I've said several times, was actually the most sensible of the lot. But they couldn't communicate it. They should have known this for years now but Corbyn's default position is dithering and fence sitting, because quite frankly he's an awful parliamentarian.

If they had recognised that, they should have then gone full on for either accepting the result - nullifying the Tory rallying cry and making any election about domestic issues like the NHS as the actual differing points between the parties - or calling for a second referendum with no ambiguity and taking the 48%.

It would have been a tough ask regardless but not being able to communicate their position alongside having a totally unelectable leader and head team made Labour unelectable - as many have been saying now for a long time and has been borne out tonight.

Johnson abandoned the centre ground; Labour could have moved into it and hoovered up enough votes to take this into hung parliament territory at the least. They didn't.