Current Affairs The General Election

Voting Intentions

  • Labour

    Votes: 209 61.1%
  • Tories

    Votes: 30 8.8%
  • Lib Dems

    Votes: 20 5.8%
  • Brexit Gubbins

    Votes: 8 2.3%
  • Greens

    Votes: 8 2.3%
  • UKIP

    Votes: 1 0.3%
  • Change UK, if that's their current moniker

    Votes: 1 0.3%
  • SNP

    Votes: 4 1.2%
  • DUP

    Votes: 3 0.9%
  • Sinn Fein

    Votes: 9 2.6%
  • Alliance

    Votes: 4 1.2%
  • SDLP

    Votes: 2 0.6%
  • Plaid Cymru

    Votes: 4 1.2%
  • Some fringe party with a catchy name

    Votes: 7 2.0%
  • A plague on all your houses

    Votes: 32 9.4%

  • Total voters
    342
  • Poll closed .
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...clutching at straws here, but thinking of our game on Saturday I wonder if Labour finally kick Corbyn into touch that there might be a late surge.

Probably not. Useless Labour need people with big brains.

Any such move would be seen as an act of desperation and probably backfire imo. You can't spend 4 years arguing for a radical set of policies and direction for the country and then on the eve of the poll do a face-swap because the public are not convinced by your arguments.
 
Any such move would be seen as an act of desperation and probably backfire imo. You can't spend 4 years arguing for a radical set of policies and direction for the country and then on the eve of the poll do a face-swap because the public are not convinced by your arguments.

I'm a floating voter. I believe that the Labour Party just promised too much to too many demographics to be believable. I also believe that the last 18 months of indecision on Brexit will cost them. It's all a great pity but they seem to have played the whole shebang hopelessly wrong. Of course, there may be a miracle!
 
Yes but how would a David Miliband type figure win the seats that are going to cost Labour this election? What would be his Brexit strategy to coax these people in?

...I don’t know what his strategy would be, but it can’t be any worst than this bumbler. David Milliband is as sharp as a tack, voters would’ve taken to him or Andy Burnham in charge. Statesmanlike, sincere and smart. Like it or not, Corbyn is unpopular outside of voters who will vote Labour anyway.
 
...I don’t know what his strategy would be, but it can’t be any worst than this bumbler. David Milliband is as sharp as a tack, voters would’ve taken to him or Andy Burnham in charge. Statesmanlike, sincere and smart. Like it or not, Corbyn is unpopular outside of voters who will vote Labour anyway.

The problem is, Miliband and Burnham would have faced the exact same struggle. Needing votes from Labour leave areas with no strategy to persuade these people to stay red. You describe their character as statesmanlike, sincere and smart; I wonder if those would be the adjectives that spring to mind after 5 years of relentless attacks from the media.

People who would have you believe Labour that winning this election by a landslide was as easy as getting a slick new leader with New Labour policies are going to get a nasty shock in 5 years time if the party follows that course.
 
The problem is, Miliband and Burnham would have faced the exact same struggle. Needing votes from Labour leave areas with no strategy to persuade these people to stay red. You describe their character as statesmanlike, sincere and smart; I wonder if those would be the adjectives that spring to mind after 5 years of relentless attacks from the media.

People who would have you believe Labour that winning this election by a landslide was as easy as getting a slick new leader with New Labour policies are going to get a nasty shock in 5 years time if the party follows that course.

....I remember David Milliband when Foreign Secretary being interviewed by Sky’s Middle East expert (Marshall?). The interviewer is a very smart lad, he’s now an independent, he asked Milliband a question and he was totally aware of his brief. Milliband went into real detail, down to naming the street where the incident happened. Marshall responded with a respectful thank-you, because in his response Milliband had corrected part of the detail in Marshalls question. Subtle and classy.

Milliband is on a different level to Corbyn. Corbyn is a glorified shop steward.
 
I'm a floating voter. I believe that the Labour Party just promised too much to too many demographics to be believable. I also believe that the last 18 months of indecision on Brexit will cost them. It's all a great pity but they seem to have played the whole shebang hopelessly wrong. Of course, there may be a miracle!

Yep.

free internet
free childcare
free University
WASPI refunds
bumper public sector payrises
nationalisation of key industries

all "funded by the rich" (who of course are too stupid to move their money elsewhere). The reality is that it would be funded by the public via a huge expansion of public debt, which would turn Britian into the next Greece or Argentina. And don't forget he wants to eventually cut the working week to 30hrs also LOL

It's every bit as extreme as Labour's 1983 manifesto, and so far removed from the world we live in.
 
Yep.

free internet
free childcare
free University
WASPI refunds
bumper public sector payrises
nationalisation of key industries

all "funded by the rich" (who of course are too stupid to move their money elsewhere). The reality is that it would be funded by the public via a huge expansion of public debt, which would turn Britian into the next Greece or Argentina.

It's every bit as extreme as Labour's 1983 manifesto, and so far removed from the world we live in.

doubt it
 
Yep.

free internet
free childcare
free University
WASPI refunds
bumper public sector payrises
nationalisation of key industries

all "funded by the rich" (who of course are too stupid to move their money elsewhere). The reality is that it would be funded by the public via a huge expansion of public debt, which would turn Britian into the next Greece or Argentina. And don't forget he wants to eventually cut the working week to 30hrs also LOL

It's every bit as extreme as Labour's 1983 manifesto, and so far removed from the world we live in.

I agree that it´s very far removed from the world we live in. I think that´s the point though, to try and change it.

Rich, powerful people who control the media tell you none of these things are possible, but they also thought Brexit was a great idea for the country. How long before they have the balls to say that NHS isn´t possible? We all know it´s sliding that way.
 
Yep.

free internet
free childcare
free University
WASPI refunds
bumper public sector payrises
nationalisation of key industries

all "funded by the rich" (who of course are too stupid to move their money elsewhere). The reality is that it would be funded by the public via a huge expansion of public debt, which would turn Britian into the next Greece or Argentina. And don't forget he wants to eventually cut the working week to 30hrs also LOL

It's every bit as extreme as Labour's 1983 manifesto, and so far removed from the world we live in.
Didn't you hear we are the 5th biggest economy in the world and survived two world wars. This negativity needs to stop, we can manage this government spending easily with a bit of hard work.
 
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