Current Affairs The General Election

[NilSatisOptimum]

You read me wrong. What I meant is that on a party political basis, its pointless. They all want to do green stuff, which is great, and yeah, a leading economic power leading the way is mega sound.

So instead of rowing about tiny details surely its better to support every initiative each party suggests?

By the Party leaders who have attended, however, Johnson and Farage? Johnson has played down their manifesto as loose ideas, so who knows what Johnson actually believes, probably waiting for Trump tell him what he thinks.

 

[roydo]

Why is it nonsense?

If you plant millions of trees on farms, they stop being farms. And you cannot "make" peat bogs.

 

[dannyboy]

If you plant millions of trees on farms, they stop being farms. And you cannot "make" peat bogs.

Didn´t realise he said millions of trees were going to be planted on farms. Thought it was just planting trees in general.

 

[Connor]

Nice to have a debate not ruined by the heckling of a crowd.

 

[Bruce Wayne]

Dunno mate. Corbyn just said he wants to plant 100 million trees a year, on farms. And make peat bogs. Its an utter nonsense.

Swinson wants to see more hedgehogs, and there is a shortage of sparrows.

Like I said, in the real world, its all pretty meaningless.

Oh, the Plaid fellow is now going to cycle to work and tell his missus to use reusable nappies.

Why bogs may be key to fighting climate change

There are, arguably, only two interesting facts about bogs. The first is that some people have a jolly good time swimming through them, notably at the World Bog Snorkelling Championships held each year in central Wales, UK. The second is that they could help save the world.

horizon-magazine.eu

 

[tsubaki]

If you plant millions of trees on farms, they stop being farms. And you cannot "make" peat bogs.

You can restore them, though - the Scots have started to do this.

 

[roydo]

Didn´t realise he said millions of trees were going to be planted on farms. Thought it was just planting trees in general.

He did. He was asked where 100 million trees a year, (his target) would be planted. He said farms, our new national parks, and open spaces. Sommet like that, and the 100 million might be wrong.

Point I am making is that in an election, Green Stuff isnt really a vote decider. If it really floats your boat above everything, Greens it is. For the other 98% of folk, knowing your party is arsed about it should slake your appetite.

 

[Bruce Wayne]

He did. He was asked where 100 million trees a year, (his target) would be planted. He said farms, our new national parks, and open spaces. Sommet like that, and the 100 million might be wrong.

Point I am making is that in an election, Green Stuff isnt really a vote decider. If it really floats your boat above everything, Greens it is. For the other 98% of folk, knowing your party is arsed about it should slake your appetite.

Think Monbiot would quite like all 100 million in the Lake District.

 

[thirdmantackle]

If you plant millions of trees on farms, they stop being farms. And you cannot "make" peat bogs.

A lot of farms are not viable

Plus, there was trees there before the farmers cleared them.

Cities need a lot more trees

 

[tsubaki]

He did. He was asked where 100 million trees a year, (his target) would be planted. He said farms, our new national parks, and open spaces. Sommet like that, and the 100 million might be wrong.

Point I am making is that in an election, Green Stuff isnt really a vote decider. If it really floats your boat above everything, Greens it is. For the other 98% of folk, knowing your party is arsed about it should slake your appetite.

The problem with that is that the 98% of folk really should be arsed about it, if not to prevent an apocalypse then because we know what we are doing now has a ruinous effect on the health of thousands / hundreds of thousands of people.

 

[roydo]

You can restore them, though - the Scots have started to do this.

You can. But ask why they need to be restored. They can get drained I guess, dug up for fuel, but cant be built on, cant be exported, and again, the tiny acreage they constitute, it just seems a pointless political issue.

 

[tsubaki]

You can. But ask why they need to be restored. They can get drained I guess, dug up for fuel, but cant be built on, cant be exported, and again, the tiny acreage they constitute, it just seems a pointless political issue.

an edited version of this article appeared in the Guardian yesterday - I'd encourage everyone to read it because it explains it better than I could:

Refilling the Carbon Sink - bioGraphic

Long seen as wastelands, Scotland’s bogs are now the scene of an intense restoration effort in which millions of exotic trees are being felled to fight climate change.

www.biographic.com

 

[roydo]

The problem with that is that the 98% of folk really should be arsed about it, if not to prevent an apocalypse then because we know what we are doing now has a ruinous effect on the health of thousands / hundreds of thousands of people.

Thats exactly what I am saying. Only a fool would say better green stuff is bad. But for most people, paying bills, work, life in general kinda trumps it as the main issue.

So if you support the SNP cos you want independence, AND the SNP does green stuff, than thats great.

 

[Blues Harp]

You can. But ask why they need to be restored. They can get drained I guess, dug up for fuel, but cant be built on, cant be exported, and again, the tiny acreage they constitute, it just seems a pointless political issue.

Lets all head forward to oblivion then....why is it "pointless?" "Life in general" cannot be separated from what we are doing to the planet.

 

[tsubaki]

Thats exactly what I am saying. Only a fool would say better green stuff is bad. But for most people, paying bills, work, life in general kinda trumps it as the main issue.

So if you support the SNP cos you want independence, AND the SNP does green stuff, than thats great.

That is the thing though; people separate "green stuff" out from "life in general" and then wonder why their kid has asthma.