Current Affairs The General Election

[Mozza1987]

Look at the state of the Tories criticising and laughing at Corbyn's green tie. Can they honestly sink any lower.

 

[Jebus_lives]

Huw Merriman there mocking Jeremy Corbyn for not wearing an Arsenal tie despite being an Arsenal fan.

He's wearing a tie to commemorate the victims at Grenfell you utter clown.

 

[Jebus_lives]

Remarkable how dim Hancock comes across

on Peston last week - Peston would quote facts at him and he just kept saying ‘I simply don’t agree’

I can believe that.

 

[peteblue]

Hmm we’re straying into theoretical scenarios here that are never likely to happen.
Let’s just say that I believe that your vision of a nation without state intervention and involvement is as wildly unrealistic as you would consider a socialist state to be.

I agree. But perhaps we might in the future consider that there is more to a country than the public sector and that the demands for one have to be paid for by the other.....

 

[Bruce Wayne]

I can believe that.

Having seen him speak a few times, he has that unmistakable confidence that privileged people have, even when they clearly don't understand what they're talking about. That and the connections are probably the biggest benefit a private education gives you.

 

[Disgruntledgoat]

I agree. But perhaps we might in the future consider that there is more to a country than the public sector and that the demands for one have to be paid for by the other.....

I believe we have considered that quite thoroughly in Britain. However, the paradox is that we demand European levels of public services on American levels of taxation.

 

[dwightschrute]

''Johnson says his predecessor Theresa May was determined that, unlike victims of the 1989 Hillsborough disaster, they would not be "forced to fight the establishment year after year" to get justice. ''

The cheek of this guy whos not even allowed in Liverpool due to things hes wrote/edited

 

[Bruce Wayne]

I believe we have considered that quite thoroughly in Britain. However, the paradox is that we demand European levels of public services on American levels of taxation.

I suspect it goes deeper than that, and many people want fantastic things that are paid for by other people. I mean for all the griping about our 'underfunded NHS', I doubt many people put their hands in their pocket and donate money to their local NHS trust. Every single NHS trust has a donation page, either for the living or for the recently deceased as part of their will. For instance, the funding shortfall of the NHS would require each person to cough up about £50, but I doubt many would make such a donation, but rather spend their time campaigning for other people to foot the bill on their behalf.

 

[magicjuan]

I agree. But perhaps we might in the future consider that there is more to a country than the public sector and that the demands for one have to be paid for by the other.....

That's Marx isn't it?

 

[magicjuan]

I suspect it goes deeper than that, and many people want fantastic things that are paid for by other people. I mean for all the griping about our 'underfunded NHS', I doubt many people put their hands in their pocket and donate money to their local NHS trust. Every single NHS trust has a donation page, either for the living or for the recently deceased as part of their will. For instance, the funding shortfall of the NHS would require each person to cough up about £50, but I doubt many would make such a donation, but rather spend their time campaigning for other people to foot the bill on their behalf.

So what type of people do charity work, volunteer in hospices, fundraise, or pay tax and NI? Is it just wealthy people, the ones who benefit from the labours of others disproportionately?
I'm sure the 'shottfall' would be covered by even the slightest increase in taxation.

 

[The binman chronicles]

At the last election I was worried by a Labour/SNP coalition and thus I preferred May's conservatives to win. This time bring on the coalition, screw the far right party.

I have to vote Lib Dems where I am but to be honest they haven't got a chance, the Brexit vote was 61 to 38% and the last election 55% of the vote went to the Tories. Safe as houses springs to mind. Hope all your constituencies do better.

 

[Chewbacca]

If the public sector disappeared tomorrow, the private sector would all set up their own hospitals, police, teachers and schools etc.

This is how it was in the Victorian era. Not sure we want to return there, although I’m aware many Conservatives think that child Labour and the spread of cholera is a ’good thing’ and should be encouraged to keep the underclass in their rightful place.

 

[NilSatisOptimum]

I suspect it goes deeper than that, and many people want fantastic things that are paid for by other people. I mean for all the griping about our 'underfunded NHS', I doubt many people put their hands in their pocket and donate money to their local NHS trust. Every single NHS trust has a donation page, either for the living or for the recently deceased as part of their will. For instance, the funding shortfall of the NHS would require each person to cough up about £50, but I doubt many would make such a donation, but rather spend their time campaigning for other people to foot the bill on their behalf.

That's the nature of low tax and apparently 6th richest nation in world. NHS, same with schools they have donating pages... How much should people working full time having to receive benefits to give a basic standard of living donate to schools.?

Cash-strapped schools need billions in extra funding, Government warned

More than 1,000 councillors have written to the Education Secretary to urge the Government to pump billions of extra funding into schools.The letter to Damian Hinds calls on the Government to reverse spending cuts and ensure special needs (Send) funding is adequate.It follows a report by the...

www.itv.com

 

[Jebus_lives]

Having seen him speak a few times, he has that unmistakable confidence that privileged people have, even when they clearly don't understand what they're talking about. That and the connections are probably the biggest benefit a private education gives you.

Incredible isn't it, it's confidence over competence.

 

[Jebus_lives]

I suspect it goes deeper than that, and many people want fantastic things that are paid for by other people. I mean for all the griping about our 'underfunded NHS', I doubt many people put their hands in their pocket and donate money to their local NHS trust. Every single NHS trust has a donation page, either for the living or for the recently deceased as part of their will. For instance, the funding shortfall of the NHS would require each person to cough up about £50, but I doubt many would make such a donation, but rather spend their time campaigning for other people to foot the bill on their behalf.

I think that is lack of awareness rather than personal choice.